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I received this via email this morning and wanted to pass it along for your consideration:
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This note is to give you a heads-up that some of our materials will be increasing in price as of March 1st. Our paper timeline sets have never had an increase in the nine years we've had them in print, even as paper costs have gone up almost annually.
The following items will be affected:
- History through the Ages Historical Timeline Figures (Pre-printed wall sets)
- The Record of Time timeline notebook
- The Suggested Placement Guide
If you have been considering purchasing these items, you may want to make your purchase before March 1st!
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Edited the title of this thread since it morphed from an announcement to discussion of a Book of Centuries. 
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Hey Jen? What did you think of their timeline binder? Are there any other products that you have been happy with?...just asking as I can't really "see" them from here...
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I have never heard of this before and I really like the looks of it! Is there anything that you can use before 3rd grade? I was thinking of doing Beautiful Feet for history, but might really enjoy this!
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Donna Marie wrote:
| Hey Jen? What did you think of their timeline binder? Are there any other products that you have been happy with?...just asking as I can't really "see" them from here... |
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We have the timeline book and the figures. We use the book consistently - day in and day out. The timeline book follows my child from 4th grade through the end of high school. We use the figures occasionally; they are quite nice quality!
I've rambled on and on about this book before  ....
Timeline Figures
time lines
Timeline Choices
This timeline notebook is an investment book. We've been pleased with it. The figures are excellent quality images, and the "blurbs" seem accurate and succinct - my kinda blurb! I do like that there are a number of figures from early Church history included.
Pics for you, Donna Marie! These are all taken from a book that is 5 years old.
This is my oldest dd's book. We had already started a fanfold timeline and she did a lot of work on that timeline so I clipped it to the front cover. It's very secure there.
This is an example of some of the timeline figures. There are two different types of figures in this picture though...so if you look closely (below the 1500 line), MOSES AND THE EXODUS, JOSEPH, TABERNACLE BUILT...these are all from Homeschool in the Woods Historical Timeline Figures....LAND OF MILK AND HONEY comes from Marcia Clark's Catholic World History Timeline and Guide (review of that resource here).
The following are just examples from within her timeline book from over the years:
We include maps and some written narrations of historical figures in our book. I wanted to show you an example. This is easily done with a hole punch.
Hope this gives you an idea of the size/quality/potential/etc. of the book so you can more easily discern if this book fits your family needs.
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Also, this seems new to me since I last looked at their website, but do check out the free samples offered. I LOVE it when companies provide free samples so I can look and get a real feel for whether or not something like this might work!
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It is really neat looking, isn't it? I'm not sure if there is anything I'd use from HOMESCHOOL IN THE WOODS before 3rd or 4th grade though, Kristin Anne. Keep them in mind though because, my how that time flies!
Here's why I start a Book of Centuries around 4th grade --> The idea of *time* is really abstract. A timeline or book of centuries is a great tool in helping a child move from abstract ideas *throughout time* to a concrete representation along a *time line*. I like to wait until a child has more of an awareness and understanding of *time* before we start with timelines or Book of Century notebooks..usually around 3rd/4th grade. (It goes without saying that children are individual - so I trust moms to know their own child best and determine when is best to start this kind of work.) I DO read a lot of historical picture books, of course! We just don't do any timeline work until around 3rd grade or so. I'll tell you another reason I don't usually begin until later and that is penmanship and the ability to focus and work diligently. Around 3rd/4th grade, a child's penmanship is more developed and they're able to write without GIGANTIC lines and paper. Since our Book of Centuries is a book that follows a student from 4th - 12th grade, I like that even now, my 9th grader can look back at her work from 4th grade and still be pleased, she isn't embarrassed by her writing from early elementary.
This is a book to treasure and work in diligently and one day to open and flip through and remember all the treasures of history you uncovered and chronicled in your own notebook.
Hope this is a help!
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I completely agree that you shouldn't start that stuff until later. I am just sad that they don't make a product for early elementary because it looks so fun!!! I am so senile, I will probably forget about it by the time we are up to 3rd grade!
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Oh I just LOVE this idea!! 
I have not heard of Homeschool in the Woods before....I'm very excited to investigate further!
Thank you Jen for sharing!
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Bumping this because I have been debating on whether to begin a BOC with my 4th grader next year. I am wavering a little based on these things:
- I know that this will follow with her through highschool and I want to make sure that we approach it properly.
- Her spelling is still rather sketchy. We have just begun dictation work this month and (SURPRISE!) she is really enjoying it! She does get frustrated when she misspells something and I really want the BOC to be a source of pride rather than frustration.
- We haven't started written narrations for the reasons stated above although her spoken narrations have developed nicely over the past year.
So given these guidelines how would one approach a BOC at this age? Timeline figures only? I had originally considered waiting until 5th or 6th grade to start. Any recommendations?
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Shannon,
For those exact reasons I chose to not start my oldest daughter's BOC until this year in 6th grade. Even this year I tried to not make it a big deal. This is the child that has severe anxiety issues so I did not want her BOC to be a cause of frustration.
I am so very glad I waited since she now enjoys being able to write in her book without it being an anxiety.
Also we study History in a 4 year rotation. We will be studying and finishing up modern history in 8th grade and then starting all over in 9th. This way I think she is going to be able to get it all over again 
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I purchased the DVD ROM BOC and Timeline Figures from Homeschool in the Woods last year when my son was going into second grade. We sort of looked at doing it and quickly shelved it for all the reasons Mimi and Jen listed above. It was obvious that this was an important and life-long resource for the child, not something to be rushed into when they were younger.
I do like the printable option from the DVD ROM. I bought cream colored card stock to print it on and put each page in a transparent sleeve. I purchased one of the Better Binders from Staples- the biggest one I could find. It is just sitting on our shelf waiting for DS to be ready to use it. The little bit that we did last year really whetted his appetite and he is really looking forward to it.
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ShannonJ wrote:
Bumping this because I have been debating on whether to begin a BOC with my 4th grader next year. I am wavering a little based on these things:
- I know that this will follow with her through highschool and I want to make sure that we approach it properly.
- Her spelling is still rather sketchy. We have just begun dictation work this month and (SURPRISE!) she is really enjoying it! She does get frustrated when she misspells something and I really want the BOC to be a source of pride rather than frustration.
- We haven't started written narrations for the reasons stated above although her spoken narrations have developed nicely over the past year.
So given these guidelines how would one approach a BOC at this age? Timeline figures only? I had originally considered waiting until 5th or 6th grade to start. Any recommendations?
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I wouldn't limit myself to only timeline figures, Shannon. It sounds like your dd is doing fantastic, especially if narrations are developing nicely. How is her penmanship? This would concern me more than spelling. For the Book of Centuries, you can always write out a name/event or have her copy it from a book so that she sees the correct spelling and can treat it just like copywork. To me, spelling isn't a deal-breaker, in fact, both my older children when they were in the 4th grade were still really working (sometimes struggling) with spelling, too. For starting with the BOC, I look for:
** decent penmanship (not super big or chunky)
** beginning understanding of the concept of time
** willingness to work with diligence
If you have all three of these, I'd say you're in good shape to get started. Book of Century additions don't need to be written narrations - just a simple name or event with date will do. My children enjoy adding simple illustrations at times. I'd say that if penmanship for your rising 4th grader is good, a BOC ought to be something you consider seriously for next year. Oh how exciting! It's truly one of my favorite things about a CM education. You want a visual narration of a CM student's liberal education? Open their BOC when they get to the end of high school!
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Thanks ladies for letting me know your reasons for starting when you did!
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** decent penmanship (not super big or chunky)
** beginning understanding of the concept of time
** willingness to work with diligence
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We have used temporary timelines occasionally over the past several years, so she does have a fairly good grasp on the concept of time. And she does have good penmanship. In fact, she writes so S-L-O-W-L-Y to ensure her good penmanship that I wonder if we will ever be able to attempt written narrations.
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And this is exactly what I was curious about. How much I should expect that she would include in a BOC at this point. Simple entries sound just perfect. I guess that some will have additions in the years to come as well.
Oh my! I have been drooling over Homeschool in the Woods for YEARS now! So excited!!!
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ShannonJ wrote:
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And this is exactly what I was curious about. How much I should expect that she would include in a BOC at this point. Simple entries sound just perfect. I guess that some will have additions in the years to come as well. |
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Exactly! There may be someone from history that is added to the BOC that your dd may write a narration about after reading a living book on that person, and you may choose to include that. But this is not the norm, really. For the most part, entries are very short and succinct, including a name and date or event and date. My children enjoy humor and cartoons, so this type of simple illustration often makes its way into the BOC. (See picture examples above, and look at Copernicus and Arius and their simple little illustrations that accompany them.) Illustrations are not required by me, in other words, I don't tell the children that today I'd like illustrations to accompany BOC additions. I'd say that about half of my kids' additions have simple illustrations, and half are just dates and name or event.
I have started asking for a little more in terms of adding a person to the BOC. We all talked and decided that just adding a name and a birth date or a name and date of death didn't really convey a sense of that person living through time, and further connecting who else lived or what else happened during that period. So, I now ask that if a child is adding a person to the BOC that they add date of birth, date of death, and use a ruler and a color pencil line to connect the two dates. I ask for the same format (color pencil line) when adding wars or other events that take place over a period of years. We like how this added some depth and connectivity to the BOC. It makes it more visual and is easier to connect events that overlap. I'm not sure why it took me so long to figure that out (  ) but I thought I'd mention it.
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