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Kathryn Forum All-Star
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 1:13pm | IP Logged
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We attempted Seton our first year (4 year ago) and it was a dismal failure for both my big kids and they are polar opposites in learning. One is quick, sharp, attentive and the other is not. And yet the volume of work is what discouraged one child and yet the difficulty of work combined with the volume made it impossible for the other.
So, here we are 4 yrs later and I'm still struggling to educate this child who learns so.very.slow. I need to put a call in to them b/c really I need the accountable and hand-holding. I just cannot do this alone. I just wondered if anyone else had experience or whether my attempt at Seton (even reduced and with help) would just have me continuing to bang my head against a wall in attempting to educate this child.
How can a child "graduate" if they continue to take 2-3x as long to learn material? At this rate, the child would be mid 20s!
ETA: The child has been tested 3x and has been classified "below average" and basically really is a slow learner. That doesn't make it any easier. Technically not a "special ed" child but def. not learning with the masses which have made co-op classes difficult, even CHC materials difficult, tutoring difficult (not to mention expensive).
Can I just cry on someone's shoulders right now?!?!
__________________ Kathryn in TX
(dd 16, ds 15, dd 8, dd 5)
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amyable Forum All-Star
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 1:58pm | IP Logged
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Here's my well worn shoulder! It's all yours!
We are using Seton's special services department for the first time (signed up about 1.5 months ago for the upcoming year) for my rising 10th grader who is dyslexic/ADD/LDs. I thought they were VERY helpful. They wanted a copy of our testing if we had any (it's not necessary, just helpful). That being said, they were very open to what *I* thought my child could handle and appreciated my input. In our case we are using mostly similar textbooks, with the output being changed and/or less, for example getting multiple choice questions instead of short essay.
I don't know how it works with younger grades, I can only guess that it would be similar. From their website it sounds like they work with all sorts of disabilities...from dyslexics, to sight impaired, to children with Down Syndrome, etc.
As an aside, I have found one of the best uses of my time with Seton has been to read the lesson plans thoroughly and skim the books, to determine where I can cut assignments, and also to work up study guides so the student knows what is important for the test (that I have seen beforehand). Seton highly encourages both of these things. Seton *knows* they give too much. They don't WANT you to do it all unless it is necessary for the particular child.
I've been messaging a good number of people about Seton lately, feel free to PM me if you want for more particular questions.
I hope you can find something that works out for your family.
__________________ Amy
mom of 5, ages 6-16, and happy wife of
The Highly Sensitive Homeschooler
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Angi Forum All-Star
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 3:41pm | IP Logged
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I have no experience with Seton's Special Ed dept, but I do have experience with Seton and a Master's Degree in Special Ed. Since I cannot use my degree to benefit my family, hubby and I have decided to offer my services (via email or phone) to other families.
If you or anyone have specific questions, or even just curious about something, please feel free to pm me.
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Kathryn Forum All-Star
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged
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amyable wrote:
Here's my well worn shoulder! It's all yours!
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Thanks Amy!
I need to find the time to call but not sure when that will happen considering the 2 yr old is in constant "scream" mode lately. In fact, right now.
__________________ Kathryn in TX
(dd 16, ds 15, dd 8, dd 5)
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amyable Forum All-Star
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 6:00pm | IP Logged
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Kathryn wrote:
amyable wrote:
Here's my well worn shoulder! It's all yours!
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Thanks Amy!
I need to find the time to call but not sure when that will happen considering the 2 yr old is in constant "scream" mode lately. In fact, right now. |
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They are pretty good about emailing, especially if you explain your predicament.
__________________ Amy
mom of 5, ages 6-16, and happy wife of
The Highly Sensitive Homeschooler
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Mom21 Forum Rookie
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Our son is a 6th grader this year and we enrolled him in the Special Services for math only. There was no additional fee to do this because it was just for one subject and our son isn't in high school yet. We used Teaching Textbooks and each quarter, I just submitted his daily work grades(not the work itself) and the actual quizzes he took. Super easy on our part.
I would talk to Stephen Costanzo in Seton's Special Services department. He was so helpful and full of god information. Plus, he told me that Seton issues 4 levels of diplomas so there are options.
Sometimes I think Seton gets an unfair rap at being too hard and/or too rigorous. Yes, you could do every single lesson in the lesson plans but we don't (but we do most of them). As long as you're doing the work THEY require for a grade (which I think is more than reasonable) then you're doing your part. I think a Seton education is solid and thorough. We used CHC when our son was young and when we switched to Seton, he scored MUCH higher on standardized testing than when he was doing CHC.
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The Tin Mom Forum Newbie
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My oldest just graduated from Seton. All three of mine have ADHD, Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, OCD, ODD, and etc.
The Special Services department at Seton has been wonderful. Our counselor worked with me every year to create a program based on each child's strengths and weaknesses. The dc were still required to do assignments which they found difficult and challenging, but the program was tweaked so that the work was possible.
We have been with Seton for 5-6 years. In two weeks, my oldest daughter leaves for her top choice university with nine hours of community college classes and two excellent scholarships. She still has some areas of weakness, but we feel comfortable that she will be able to succeed. I am not sure we would be able to say that if we hadn't had the help from our counselor at Seton.
That said, Seton is a very structured program. Now that dd has completed high school, I would like to relax and enjoy our time as a family more. This fall, I feel called to give my younger two children more individual time "learning without schooling." We may go back to Seton or perhaps to MoDG in a few months. Right now, we are tired and I would like to re-live the time when school was sitting and reading Narnia or historical fiction on the sofa with maybe a math lesson on the side.
HTH. You can PM me with any questions if you would like.
ETA: My earlier post was written quickly because we were on our way to a 4-H meeting. I just returned home and had a chance to read the other posts.
Mom21 is correct. We never did all of the work in Seton's syllabus. If the dc understood the material well enough to pass with only the "Seton graded work", we frequently skipped the "parent graded work". If they could not make the desired grade without extra practice, then they did the "parent graded work" for the practice.
Also, Mom21 is correct that there are several levels of diplomas, depending on your child's goals. My oldest always planned to attend college. The coursework that Stephen (our counselor) planned for her took this into consideration. She graduated with a degree that required more to earn than her top-choice university (a Newsweek Top 25 Regional University) required for admission. For the last year, I have joked that, if her University did not require a degree, then Dd could have started there after her junior year with Seton. Dd's best friend did not plan to attend college and graduated two years ago with a degree that was right for her and is incredibly happy in her chosen field.
Something else that I feel compelled to mention is that turning in work online is very simple with Seton in the later grades. Seems like it is more difficult in K-3.
Last. Regarding my comment on being tired. I do not want to discourage anyone from using Seton. It is a structured program - but it is solid and strong. My daughter scored very well on the ACT and is embarking on her dream. Her best friend has been living her dream for the last two years. I do not think this would have been possible without Seton. Over the last six years we have been very happy with their program. Right now though, as my two younger children work like crazy to turn in their work for 2013, as I am finishing a year of reminding my oldest of college and scholarship application deadlines, two weeks after I pushed a dysgraphic 19yo through a college English class - mere days after she turned in a Seton Research Report... I am tired. And, I miss the time 13 years ago when my 19 year old (then 6) and I were sitting on the sofa discussing "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" and the huge revelation that Aslan was Jesus... (Excuse me while me, my 14 and my 15 year old spend a couple of months regrouping and re-living....)
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