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Posted: May 17 2008 at 10:03am | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

Does anyone have any experience with this?


The speech therapist is recommending Fast Forward.

He mentioned The Listening Program.

Another recommendation is Interactive Metronome.

Then there's Earobics.


Has anyone used any of these?

I appreciate any help!


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Brenda,

I just went to a conference and heard a talk by a lady from Little Giant Steps . It was a wonderful talk, and she talked a lot about auditory processing. She said the best thing for this is to do digit span with them. I am not familiar with any of the above programs but she has some articles and products on her site for this.

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Posted: May 17 2008 at 2:11pm | IP Logged Quote ALmom

We are using a group from ICAN and most of our orders are from Little Giant Steps. They have designed a program for my nephew that also includes what sounds like the listening program. We are seeing really good results in a short time. His program includes the digit spans, Auditory concept words, listening program plus other things (physical type exercises) that help the brain sequence, etc.

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Brenda, my son has used The Listening Program. We own it as he needed to use it twice a day 5 times a week. My wonderful MIL paid for it as it's a significant investment. It didn't do a whole lot for his processing (as far as I can tell) but it has helped with attention, his sensory issues and has made him more emphatic with people.

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Posted: May 17 2008 at 3:21pm | IP Logged Quote Taffy

We've used several...

Fast ForWord helped with phoneme identification (parts of words, differentiating sounds like "va" from "fa") and highlighted ds's comprehension problems. I would definitely recommend it for auditory processing.

We did the Listening Program at home using a distance practitioner(?). It really helped with his piano playing but we were hoping that it would help with his sound sensitivity. It does seem to help but only when we're actively using it. As KC mentioned, our protocol is twice a day, five days a week. It's actually not too expensive after the initial investment (about $800-$1000) and we can repeat it as often as we wish. I wouldn't bother with using this at a practitioner's office - it would be WAY too expensive.

We have not tried interactive metronome. I think it may be of benefit to some but one could probably get similar results by active listening to music/rhythmic poetry combined to motions/dance. For example, jumping rope games, pat-a-cake, etc. The key is to follow a rhythm by ear and be able to coordinate movement to it (at least i think so).

Earobics was useful and ds generally found it fun. It's the low-cost option to FastForWord and targets the same areas, just not as intensively. Ds has an extreme sound sensitivity to baby crying sounds which is used in one of the games. I was hoping that his sound sensitivity would be helped with it but I don't think it was. It was helpful in helping him to hear and follow directions better (same can also be said for FastForWord).

Hope this helps!

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Posted: May 17 2008 at 7:18pm | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

Thank you so much!

I knew you ladies would be very helpful!

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Can anyone give me a summary of what CAPD is, or recommend a good site?

I've often wondered if my ds could be that way inclined. He has great difficulty listening and following 2 step instructions.

Thanks,

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Posted: May 19 2008 at 7:08am | IP Logged Quote LLMom

Tricia,

Check out the little giant steps link I provided in my post above. They have a free auditory processing test you can do yourself. The site has lots of information on this.

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Thanks Lisa. I'm off to have a look.

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Posted: May 20 2008 at 1:01pm | IP Logged Quote NavyMom

We had great results with Earobics, which is also more affordable.
I have heard Fast ForWord is good, but have never been able to find a therapist who works with it and it is too expensive to purchase for the home.

We also had wonderful results with Theraputic Listening and are currently doing Astronaut Training.

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Posted: May 20 2008 at 3:14pm | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

NavyMom wrote:

We also had wonderful results with Theraputic Listening and are currently doing Astronaut Training.


Hi Heidi,

Are these computer programs?

Thx!

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Posted: May 20 2008 at 6:09pm | IP Logged Quote NavyMom

Earobics, as you know is a computer program. We loved it. My son struggled with it because it challenged him but he made great progress. I never bought it for the home- he did it 2 times a week with his speech therapist. I have considered buying it since it is so inexpensive, but since it was such a challenge for him I did not want that "battle" at home.

Therapeutic Listening is a listening therapy (child listens to modulated rhythms and sounds on special headphones 2X a day for 30 min.) We did this under the supervision of our Occupational Therapist. To find a Theraputic Listening Provider go to Vital Linksand click on 'find a provider' You can do it on your own, but it is expensive. It is not specifically for Auditory Processing Disorder, but it does help. We saw huge results and so has everyone I know. It is an intense 6 week therapy.

After completing that you can go on to Astronaut Training.

Here is some info. on Astronaut Training

I suggest doing a google search and reading up on them. If you end up deciding to do it on your own PM me and I can give you some tips. My husband is an Audiologist so we do a lot of stuff on our own.

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Posted: May 21 2008 at 2:54am | IP Logged Quote Taffy

Heidi, did you find that the Therapeutic Listening via Vital Links helped with sound sensitivity? My ds is extremely sensitive to certain sounds and it is really affecting his ability to interact with the world around him. As I noted above, we've already tried several things but he really needs something to help with the sound sensitivity issue...

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Posted: May 21 2008 at 7:35am | IP Logged Quote NavyMom

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There may be some intital resistance, at least there was for us.  But my son ended up finding a lot of comfort and peace during his headphone time. He was not super sensitive, but more so than most kids; He still has some sensitivity, but yes I beleive it has helped.

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Just thought I'd pop in the add a link to "When the Brain Can't Hear" by Teri James Bellis, Ph.D. From what the speech therapist tells me, she's THE specialist when it comes to auditory processing issues.

The book was very readable. I have a better understanding now of some of the complexities of CAPD. I see that we're going to have to work with the therapist to design a program for my son based on his specific needs.

Just thought I'd mention when I asked my pediatrician for a referral for the auditory processing exam, he mentioned ADD which kind of surprised me as my son is as opposite from ADD as you can get. However, I read in this book that there's a form of ADD - AH/HD - which has to do with TOO MUCH attention to something.

It was also a little depressing to learn that the elderly, as well as post-menopausal women, suffer from CAPD. Thank God that some people have really benefitted from some of the new technology!

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Brenda, My son also has ADD, which causes him to hyperfocus, sometimes on a single thing, sometimes on everything at once. Through neurofeedback he has learned to "re-focus" in a more "normal" way when need be but that ability to hyperfocus is a good thing and will aid our sons later if they choose a profession that takes advantage of it!

My son also has a visual processing disorder and some auditory processing issues so he has a little bit of everything going on. We tried FastForward at my cousin's house (she's a SPED teacher) and he really enjoyed the computer work but, as I recall, it was hard to get a home versions. At home we use Wilson Fundamentals which has worked great. Not sure how much it helps for the CAPD but it has been tremendous for his reading and spelling.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 9:48am | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

Hi Becky,

I would love to know more about Wilson Fundamentals.

My son had his CAPD test last Saturday & it came back normal! I think we're just going to call him a late reader ...

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Posted: June 23 2008 at 8:19pm | IP Logged Quote Becky Le

You know with all of my son's "issues" in many ways he's just a late reader too. It's amazing how much things have just clicked for him this last year and once they clicked how quickly he took off.   

Wilson Fundamentals is an elementary reading program that is the precursor to their Wilson Reading System which is for older children who are behind in reading. The great thing about Fundamentals is that it can be used for ALL of your K-3 readers as it focuses on skills appropriate to all beginning readers not just "late" readers.

Fundamentals is a repetitive, systematic Orton-Gillingham reading program that focuses on decoding and building fluency. Interestingly my son who HATES anything timed LOVES the timed fluency drills, go figure. He also really enjoys the "board work" and the owls that come with the program. It is pricy but, imo, it has been worth the expense. My one complaint is that it doesn't focus enough on writing and as a result we really fell down in that area and will need to make a more concerted effort to work on that this coming year.
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 7:35am | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

How old is your son, Becky? I love to hear when things "click" !

Do you have a link for Wilson Fundamentals?

Thx!

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www.wilsonlanguage.com is the main site. The Fundations page (sorry it's Fundations not Fundamentals, it's been awhile since I looked at the name of it, I just open the box and go. ) is http://www.wilsonlanguage.com/store/item.aspx?id=a7a60581-d2 5b-dc11-be3c-0003ff30d5ff


My son is 8.5 now but things really started clicking shortly afer he turned 8. His fluency level just took off. I'm hoping eventually the same thing will happen with his writing but that's a much stickier wicket with his specific learning issues.
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