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I am just curious if anyone here has a dc with Oppositional Defiant Disorder?
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My oldest daughter was diagnosed with ODD when she was 3 or 4, (she is 19 now). It is a very "difficult to deal with" problem.  It can really test the "unconditional love" factor. 
I think there are two other moms on the board who have posted about it.
BTW, my daughter's name is Elizabeth. Maybe it's a name thing,  . J/K!
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Darlene,
I have a son with ODD. Feel free to PM me.
Kathleen
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My dd is 8yo and was diagnosed about 2 yrs ago(I think).She is on meds for a mood stabilizer.
I am just wondering if anyone would share any creative ideas for dealing with the back talking and flat out refusal to do work in homeschooling(if you homeschool)? We are really having a problem with disrespect and backtalking mostly but she is starting to balk at working on the subjects she does not like.
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I, too, have an ODD child, although I sometimes doubt if this is an accuate diagnoses. We certainly have struggled, but we are also dealing with ADHD, SPD, and ASD. My son was diagnosed with ODD at age 3. Feel free to PM me. I feel like we have been through it all...and I have many books on the subject.
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I also have an ODD child.
Things are getting lots better, here though. 
There is hope!
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Dawn
ETA: I will post more later on how we deal w/ backtalk and refusal to do work...
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What would be the profile of an ODD child?
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Here is a good web description: NetDoctor
It is normal childhood misbehavior magnified times 10 and nearly constant. 
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We have one whose been dx'ed as such, but so many other alphabet soups have been put on the child that I question it all in general. ODD is probably closest to true, if there is anything at all.
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how we deal w/ refusing to do work:
with chores and schoolwork, I set a timer. If MB does not complete the work in the amount of time I gave her, there is a consequence. depending on what it is she refused to do, she might lose a privilege or a toy, or she might have to go to time-out. setting the timer saves me from nagging her and getting into a power struggle over what i asked her to do. she often complains loudly the entire time she's doing the task, but she does it. if she doesn't do it, i give her the consequence and move on. with schoolwork, sometimes i have to consider whether the work i gave her was appropriate or not. she is very easily frustrated and doesn't like to do work if she's not SURE she'll get it 100% right. she will often not balk at doing work if she is more confident that she can complete it correctly and well. sometimes she needs extra instruction and help from me to get her to that level of confidence so she can work independently.
with backtalk:
well, we're still working on this. for us, i found it was better to focus in on her most troublesome behaviors, which were physical aggression towards me and her sisters. she has improved A LOT in that she is not nearly as physically aggressive as she was 6 months ago. if she calls me a name, there is a consequnce, usually loss of a privilege. i find it is best to wait until she is calm to talk to her about her behavior and give her the consequence. if i try to use the consequence as a way to control her while she's angry or to MAKE her stop yelling, talking back, etc, it tends to provoke her and escalate the situation.
with simple backtalk, i try to tell her in a nonthreatening way that she is being disrespectful and then i model the way i want her to speak to me. she is s-l-o-w-l-y improving in this area.
for our particulary child, we have found that gentler is better.
hope that helps!
Dawn
(sorry for the bad capitalization...i'm usually a better typist than this...it's late and i'm tired, but i promised i'd get back to you on this...so here it is!)
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Hi Darlene,
Do you think it's ODD? 3 of my 5 were adopted. My eldest daughter is the only "train wreck" of the adopted ones. She is 10,now and when(@2 years) we were just trying to figure out what was wrong, RAD (reactive attatchemnt disorder) was on the top of my list. But, she is well attatched and it began to look more like ASD. Eventually, she kept doing better and better and we used Asperger's as the dx that seemed to fit her best. Most of the time she can "pass" for "normal".
Recently, we began working with a psychiatrist that has a good reputation for working with ASD and he is the one that thought RAD might be making the Asperger's worse. He thinks it's very mild RAD- she had the full Dr. Sear's attatchment parenting - which I guess helped. A psychologist who I consulted that had some RAD experience said that she might not be able to do any better than she's doing because parts of her brain just didn't develop because she didn't get the nurturing she needed at a critical period ( that's my paraphrase and I probably am not 100% accurate) She was 9 1/2 months old when I went to China to bring her home. She was considered "young" enough when she came home so no one thought she was at great risk for RAD.
She cycles unpredictably from being the most delightful and fun child to being completely "crazy" and dangerous-and more and more verbally abusive. I never know what kind of response I will get to any request whether it's something she likes to do or doesn't like to do. One time it might be "sure, mom what ever you say" the next time it might spark a 1 hour monolouge on how I'm the worst mother in the world and how I am making her a slave and she's leaving home and going to live at the beach and she is going to take my cat collection and.......... So, the plan now is mood stabilizers and trying to find ways to work with what we have.
I've grown tired of people telling me I'm not handling her correctly and I'm missing her signs of stress leading to an explosion and I'm not consistant and on and on...
gotta go - kids are waking up
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Thanks, Krisann.......that was what I need to read.
Praying for all of you living with this in your lives......the hard child I have does not compare, at least in the extreme...but is hard enough, thus you have my prayers. It has been difficult this last year, and I will offer it all up for you.
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We have had two professionals tell us that dd has ODD and not RAD which I asked about specifically. I do believe that she also has an ASD possibly Aspergers but have no diagnosis. The official diagnosis for insurance is Mood Disorder not otherwise specified.
I have just set up a new behavior management plan for dd and it seems to be working well. In addition I have put up our schedule for the week,a week in advance to prepare her for changes and hopefully prevent meltdowns.
Thanks for the suggestions and it sure is nice to know that we are not alone.
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The best book I have on the subject (and I have read a lot...) is:
Your Defiant Child: Eight Steps to Better Behavior
by Russell A. Barkley and Christine M. Benton. I need to revisit this book again soon as we have been slipping in many areas. Has anyone else read this? I would be interested in talking with others who have read it. If anyone wants to read it for the first time, I will reread it along with you and we can go through the 8 steps together.
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Let me try and find a copy of the book here and i will read it and go through it with you.
I will start looking Monday.
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