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I went through the old threads in this forum and couldn't seem to find what I'm looking for.
I need some places that sell materials for presentations. And ideas on figures for the presentations. I'm setting up a home atrium for 3-6, and trying to plan out Advent and Mass presentations.
My sister's school uses Fontanini figures for some of the presentations, which I thought a great idea, but that leads me to a question for inexpensive (?) sources for those.
How about your mass kits? Our Father's House and CAtholic Montessori are the two sources I've found.
For someone who doesn't have access to craftsman in the family, any suggestions?
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Oh, someone suggested a travel or portable Mass kit that a priest would use as another idea. But are they always so expensive?
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I have had a hard time accepting the prices I've seen on the Mass kits in the few homeschooling places mentioned in previous posts. What I did, instead, was just search thrift stores and garage sales for acceptable, less pricey, alternatives.
There was also a wonderful idea mentioned of using gold spraypaint on otherwise plain-looking items so they look pretty. Thus, you could look for inexpensive wood or plastic items and spraypaint them. This is what I plan to do with a pair of wooden candle holders I have. I may also make the paten out of modling clay, let it harden, and then paint it gold. Either that, or find a small plate and paint it.
For the figures, I have decided to make my own clothespin dolls and hand sew their little clothes out of felt pieces. I just finished with the 12 Apostles for the Last Supper/Cenacle work for my older kids, and my 2 yo loves playing with them. I didn't even draw their faces on yet! IF you have a Hobby Lobby nearby or some other craft store, you should be able to find the pins and stands with no problem. I used pipe cleaners to make the arms then slipped the little tunics over them and pulled the arms through the armholes. I plan to make similar folks for the infancy narratives.
You could also look into a children's nativity set, since that would likely be cheaper than Fontanini (though not as beautiful). I picked up this one at the local Catholic store a few years ago (scroll down to plastic nativity). It's not cartoonish looking at all, quite nice figures. If I can find all the pieces, I may use that instead. There is also a neat wooden nativity building set. We also have a Little People one and a Playmobil one, though I can't seem to find all the pieces for ANY of them right now! Grr...
The environments for many presentations can be made using photo boxes and can double as storage. See the Faith Expressions website for more ideas and figurines.
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I forgot to add that you can also peruse places that sell dollhouse stuff for those itty-bitty items for other presentations. For example, I found some tiny candle sticks for the Mass presentation that is found in Moira's second book (6-9). I believe she suggests using the model from the Last Supper to use along with the other Mass stuff (I need to check the book).
Anyway, you can find little things that will add to the environment of the presentation (infancy narratives, whatever). A little broom for Mary's home, little boxes, bowls, birds, etc. You could also look in the toy store for Barbie or Playmobil accessories...think outside the box. I discovered a fantastic mini chalice from one of our Playmobil sets!
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Thanks, Val. Lots of great ideas. I have problems with the prices, too. But the time it takes to track things down or put them together sometimes it seems worth it! Plus, if things look shoddy, it's not inspiring.
I love the idea of photo storage boxes.
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Hi Jenn
I am just starting out with CGS - but after talking corresponding with Moira decided to start with Manual 2 and I have two preparing for First Holy Communion this year as well as older and younger. The cost of buying a lot of the things is way beyond us - and I do not have a lot of time, energy or artistic ability! But I have had a lot of good ideas and help from the kids. This is my skeleton plan:
1) Mini mass kit and altar linens - I will buy from either OFH or CM
2) We have a wonderful plastic nativity set that we will use.
3) I am experimenting with clothes pin dolls - I got the big head ones from the dollar store - problem is that they do not stand up. So I am going to anchor them in playdough. We will glue on clothes made from fabric ends. I have to let go of my perfectionist tendencies and accept that it is going to take me years to collect things like apostle symbols etc
4) My daughter came up with the idea of making people out of upside down paper cups - she drew on a face and stuck on hair and clothes - not as sturdy as wood - but at least a start and the kids will enjoy helping them. If we make them I can send you a picture
5) I will buy a Good Shepherd statue - not sure from where.
6) I will make a Good Shepherd scene using a cake presentation tray (from Michaels) covered with green textured sticky drawer liners (saw this in dollar store and target) and use popsicle/craft sticks for a fence
7) Target has started selling individual farm animals. I am going to look for my sheep there.
8) We have set up our prayer table and I am in the process of making liturgical colored cloths - my daughter had make runners until we had time to make full cloths. I am saving different sized boxes to make an altar and a credence table.
I just wish I had more hours in the day!
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What have you used as an alter table. I have been looking for something VERY inexpensive that is low enough for the kids to easily use and high enough to prevent accidents from dogs with wagging tales and curious noses.
Where is your alter table in your house and do you find it to be accessible where you have it?
Maybe I am thinking about this too much but I haven't figured out where it can go to be accessible and not have to worry about the mass kit being broken.
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Great ideas, Marilyn! You're right, there aren't enough hours in the day.
And this week I tried visiting local thrift stores for some ideas...and completely bombed. They are picked clean. To hit garage sales takes time...and it's all hit or miss. I don't know how people do it! I guess running errands drains me so that I'd rather just pay for something and have it over with. While I love a good hunt, I don't like to when I want it yesterday, KWIM?
My altar is a little table I removed the legs. It's not perfect, but it will do for now.
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Illuminated Ink is having a free shipping sale with 10% off All Saints stuff until Sunday. They have a Jesse tree kit with 3-d ornaments - which I am thinking of getting for part of the CGS work this year - problem is that there are only 12 ornaments - but I think still possible. They also have Saint symbol stickers - which may be useful for making the 12 apostles figures - I have to check the list of saints included on their site.
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I am trying to figure out whether to buy the Mass materials from Catholic Montessori or Our Fathers House - does anyone have any advice on this?
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MarilynW wrote:
I am trying to figure out whether to buy the Mass materials from Catholic Montessori or Our Fathers House - does anyone have any advice on this?
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I'm wondering the same question. I can't afford the whole package deal at Catholic Montessori...ouch. I think I'm going with OFH, but then thinking I need to add the linens...it just all adds up. I have this money I'm trying to decide on how to fit it all in for books, montessori material and catechesis and I do think this should take priority. But then I'm not sure. 
Thanks for the tip about Illuminated Ink. I wish they would add more for O Antiphons and Jesse Tree. I have asked Fran, but she's so busy she's not sure when.
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Jen - I have added up the totals for both - and they are similar for like items - CM does have a tabernacle and ciborium included, as well as the box. But I still am finding it about $100 more. I will probably do OFH - but i would like the ciborium and tabernacle. I will probably do mine as part of Christmas expenditure - as my school budget has been huge this year.
BTW - please would you tell me how to quote from someone's post - I cannot figure it out.
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OK, here's another cheapie idea for the linens. Of course, it could also be another hit or miss. I visited Big Lots last week and found white linen-looking dishtowels for $3! I imagine you might find something similar at a dollar store chain. I will use these for the altar linens, adding little red crosses in Sharpie to the appropriate pieces. I already have a cloth to use for the tablecloth.
To quote someone, click on the quote button on the person's post...this will add it in the reply box below. Then cut out the parts you don't want quoted and delete.
As far as the altar table....I haven't set ours up yet. I will either use the small table from my daughter's room or else do the overturned box idea suggested in Moira's album. To keep pieces from getting lost or damaged, keep them in a separate box to be taken out when a child wants to work with them. If you need to put the box up, do so. I don't see a problem w/a child asking for your help to get it down.
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Again with the great ideas! Thanks so much, Valerie. Your post reminded me I have tons of linen and cotton napkins upstairs passed on to me by dh's aunt...more than I could ever use if I was entertaining daily! I also have a few tablecloths. One of the places I love looking are antique stores. I don't buy the premium tablecloths and linens, but sometimes there are just some that are lovely that can be fixed, cleaned or whatever for cheap.
What dimensions should I look for in the altar linens?
And for the altar cloth, should it only cover the tabletop, with no draping on the sides?
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We started the 3-5 album about 6 weeks ago with my 3,4, and 5 year old. So I’m still getting things together. I’ve found this discussion really helpful….thanks, everyone for sharing what you’re doing.
We purchased the Min Mass Kit, Ciborium, and Altar Linens from Our Father’s House
This is what is included and the dimensions for the altar cloths:
Altar Cloth 11x34
Corporal 10x10”
Pall 3” square
Purificator 6x 8 ½”
Finger Towel 8 x 10”
The linens are STARCHED and the folds are “permanent” which helps in the folding process….esp with the 3 and 4 year old. I’m not an expert on “ironing” so I don’t know how the ‘stiff-starching’ will hold up with 4 people folding and handling it over the years. But, I have found this helpful with the littles…..as opposed to a reg piece of material that is more flimsy. Of course, you can always starch yourself! Ha! I actually don’t think I’ve ever done this!
See Danielle Bean's post "Pressing On" to laugh about ironing!
Also, the red cross in the center of the corporal and the purificator is KEY…..but, again, you could do that yourself….but is it worth the work?
I just posted about our Altar Presentation IV on my blog...please don’t laugh hysterically at my Tabernacle (homemade). (It actually looks much better in the pictures than it does in real life!)
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Dear Suzanne
Thanks so much for posting and for the photos on your blog. You have helped me decide to order from OFH and also given me ideas for my own tabernacle. The photos are great. We are using Manual 2 but there are many Mass presentations.
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Suzanne,
I think your gold tabernacle is brilliant!
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I am new to this forum ... looking for a good
resource(s) for wooden figures for Bible stories, Lent, etc. I have some, but want to add to my collection.
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Maria,
I've found most of what I need at Worship Woodworks.
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Elizabeth - I could not find last supper and crucifixion/resurrection figures at Worship Woodworks. I love the figures on your blog entry today - are those Worship woodworks?c
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