| Author | |
guitarnan
Forum Moderator
Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Maryland
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 10883
|
| Posted: Feb 04 2006 at 9:17pm | IP Logged
|
 |
|
St. Katharine Drexel had a special ministry to Native Americans and African-Americans. Perhaps you can include something on her. She was such a special, inspirational person!
__________________
Nancy in MD. Mom of ds (24) & dd (18); 31-year Navy wife, move coordinator and keeper of home fires. Writer and dance mom.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Rachel May
Forum All-Star
Joined: June 24 2005
Location: Kansas
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2057
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 5:13pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I was just wondering about this today. I remembered Native Americans, but not Blacks. We have the Glory Story, but does anyone know a book?
__________________
Rachel
Thomas and Anthony (10), Maria (8), Charles (6), Cecilia (5), James (3), and Joseph (1)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
momwise
Forum All-Star
Joined: March 28 2005
Location: Colorado
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1914
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 6:58pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Rachel,
I know I have a book about St. Katherine. It may be a Vision book. I'll keep searching. While I was looking for it I came across Dark Shepherd by Josephine Kelly. It's published St. Anthony Guild Press and it's about James Healy, the first black bishop in the U.S. They are quite a fascinating family. 2 other Healy boys became priests I believe, and their father was Irish, their mother black. He was called the Children's Bishop for his endearing personality.
__________________
Gwen...wife for 30 years, mom of 7, grandma of 3.....
"If you want equal justice for all and true freedom and lasting peace, then America, defend life." JPII
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
lapazfarm
Forum All-Star
Joined: July 21 2005
Location: Alaska
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6082
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 7:17pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Speaking of Black history month...does anyone know of a good book on St. Martin de Porres? My daughter chose him as her patron saint at confirmation, but she has such trouble finding info on him. She says the one book she read was inspiring but very dry.She doesn't remember the author, however. She would also love a medal of him but we cannot find that either.
__________________
Theresa
us-schooling in beautiful Fairbanks, Alaska.
LaPaz Home Learning
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Rachel May
Forum All-Star
Joined: June 24 2005
Location: Kansas
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2057
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 8:36pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Theresa, Thanks for the tip!
To answer you, I just found this one when I was cleaning out today, Saint Martin De Porres and the Mice. It's an easy reading book, so I'm sure your daughter is beyond it, but it's a nice book. I bought it from Emmanuel Books, but I couldn't find it on their site.
Here's a St. Martin de Porres medal. Sometimes, if you go to a local jeweler or Catholic book store where they carry medals, they have catalogs where you can pick the one you want. That way you wouldn't have to get 14k gold if you didn't want.
__________________
Rachel
Thomas and Anthony (10), Maria (8), Charles (6), Cecilia (5), James (3), and Joseph (1)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
lapazfarm
Forum All-Star
Joined: July 21 2005
Location: Alaska
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6082
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 8:47pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Very nice, Rachel! Thanks! As for the book, would it be appropriate for a 10 yo? My son loved the story of the mice when my daughter told it to him. I'm sure he'd like to read it for himself.
__________________
Theresa
us-schooling in beautiful Fairbanks, Alaska.
LaPaz Home Learning
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
teachingmom
Forum All-Star
Virginia Bluebells
Joined: Feb 16 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2120
|
| Posted: Feb 05 2006 at 11:35pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Theresa,
I liked The Pied Piper of Peru about St. Martin de Porres. I found it at my library a few years ago. It's really meant for younger children. I wouldn't buy it for a 10 yo, but I would definitely check it out of the library for him to read.
__________________
~Irene (Mom to 6 girls, ages 7-19)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
momwise
Forum All-Star
Joined: March 28 2005
Location: Colorado
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1914
|
| Posted: Feb 07 2006 at 8:54am | IP Logged
|
|
|
momwise wrote:
Rachel,
I know I have a book about St. Katherine. It may be a Vision book. |
|
|
Well, it's a Credo book and of course it's out of print. I checked at Pauline Books and there side by side are biographies for St. Katherine and St. Martin de Porres. They look great!
__________________
Gwen...wife for 30 years, mom of 7, grandma of 3.....
"If you want equal justice for all and true freedom and lasting peace, then America, defend life." JPII
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
ALmom
Forum All-Star
Joined: May 18 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3299
|
| Posted: Feb 07 2006 at 2:15pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
There is a Windeatt book on St. Martin de Porres (Tan and Ignatius Press sell them). The reading level is typically a little higher than Vision books.
Is anyone reprinting the Credo Books or the American Background Books? We've picked up some good ones at friends of the library sales. It seems school libraries up North that are dumping their great books, send them down south. I got piles of 50C books with labels from Catholic schools up North at our library sale in Al. If you can get your hands on them, they are worth nabbing!
Our rabbit trail (American Indians) was fun while it lasted. DD discovered that the instructions in her books were not specific enough so we ended up with moldy deer hides. I guess the next time we go to an Indian festival, we'll have to ask a Native American just exactly how it is done. Might have had something to do with oversoaking and not being able to start a huge bonfire in our driveway  . I don't mind the break from the stench. She even got rid of the deer tail that she had supposedly cleaned. It just stunk too much. If anyone knows better books, let us know. Next time we may consult a tanner and go from there.
She is now off on a middle ages tangent - is building an armory, drawing, reading The Gauntlett and some other book she borrowed from a friend.
We ought to go on a WWII tangent as her grandfather just gave us his old WWII uniform, his canteen and all his medals (the ones presented on the battlefield) plus some copies of photos taken of him in WWII.. We are a bit in awe. Wish he would tell us a bit more about getting out of China and being stopped by Japanese patrols, living in Hong Kong for a while (a 16 yo without family - his dad was in the US already and had a family friend help him get out). We are getting bits and pieces of family history from him. It is very fascinating.
Janet
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Kelly
Forum All-Star
Joined: Feb 21 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1211
|
| Posted: Feb 12 2006 at 9:24am | IP Logged
|
|
|
For Black History Month, two more good books are:
"African Triumph" by Charles Dollen, about the life of St. Charles Lwanga and the Ugandan martyrs, published by Daughters of St. Paul;
"Servant to the Slaves: The Story of Henriette Delille" by David R. Collins. Henriette Delille is the first U.S. born African American to have her cause of sainthood officially opened by the Catholic Church. Seems like I heard there was a made-for-television movie about her, too.
Kelly in FL
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
JennGM
Forum Moderator
Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17702
|
| Posted: Feb 12 2006 at 1:09pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Kelly wrote:
For Black History Month, two more good books are:
"African Triumph" by Charles Dollen, about the life of St. Charles Lwanga and the Ugandan martyrs, published by Daughters of St. Paul; |
|
|
Oh yes, great book. I had thought of that one, then decided to not suggest because it wasn't "American."
On this discussion, how do you deal with the (sometimes so-called) controversial materials or past depictions or typing of blacks in America? The books like "Little Black Sambo."
I personally find Uncle Rhemus stories delightful, but I do worry about the typecasting.
__________________
Jennifer G. Miller
Wife to  & ds1  '03 & ds2  '07
Family in Feast and Feria
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Rachel May
Forum All-Star
Joined: June 24 2005
Location: Kansas
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2057
|
| Posted: Feb 13 2006 at 12:59pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Jenn,
You brought up 2 good issues. I'm not worrying too much about non-American people being brought into our Black History month. It's about blacks in general for us. With Church history and saints especially, I'm willing to take anything. 
As for the sensitive issues. On the Black History Month thread Janet mentioned a book--Sam and the Tigers--which is a reworked version on Little Black Sambo, and I think she mentioned that there is an introduction explaining why they chose to rewrite the book in more acceptable way. We are enjoying the Julius Lester updated versions of Brer Rabbit on audio. They are very funny and I never read the originals so I don't know what has been changed. The tar baby did make it in though and we talked about how Brer Rabbit treated him and why that was wrong, but sort of glossed the racism issue.
Today we started to listen to the first Addie American Girl story.  I should have prelistened; I don't know what I was thinking! Anthony was crying in the back of the van, but even though it was diffucult to hear, all the kids wanted to finish the whole tape which is the whole first book. I agreed that we could hear the end of that one tape and then we would wait until they were older to read the other books.
Everyone, I'm loving the book suggestions!
__________________
Rachel
Thomas and Anthony (10), Maria (8), Charles (6), Cecilia (5), James (3), and Joseph (1)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
ALmom
Forum All-Star
Joined: May 18 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3299
|
| Posted: Feb 13 2006 at 3:17pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Jenn,
Actually it wasn't me that recommended the Lester books - though I did look on the web link at the comments because I am really trying to understand what it is that is offensive. There were still some that were offended even by the rewrite so obviously there is something about these books that are seen as very demeaning or there is some connection to something quite painful for it to be such a big issue. I want to be sensitive and understand and I certainly don't want to offend anyone or stereotype.
I'm glad you asked the question as it is something I wanted to ask. Maybe Rachel May could give me a bit of an education. We have an old book with the story of Little Black Sambo in it and I have read it to the kids. We never even knew it was offensive to anyone until later. The kids and I love the story and it didn't even occur to us that anyone was being typed - sort of like Sambo could have been anybody and was such a clever little boy to outwit those silly tigers. We identified ourselves with Sambo. I have honestly wanted to know more specifically - to be educated so to speak. Maybe I missed something because we just weren't around in the U.S. much when I was growing up. I hope no one takes offense at my ignorance - but I really do want to understand.
Janet
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
JennGM
Forum Moderator
Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17702
|
| Posted: Feb 13 2006 at 4:23pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Here is an online version of Little Black Sambo and Wikipedia's entry about this. The entry helped me understand the controversy. I'd love to hear your input, Rachel.
__________________
Jennifer G. Miller
Wife to & ds1 '03 & ds2 '07
Family in Feast and Feria
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
4Real Forums : Living Learning
Topic: Any New Rabbit Trails?
