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Posted: Aug 24 2005 at 4:48pm | IP Logged Quote Erica Sanchez

I haven't joined in on the conversation because we aren't coffee drinkers around here, but I have begun to spread the word to family and the teenagers at church who are all Starbucks junkies. That's quite a few people if the corporate people care!

There just have to be alternatives to Starbucks!! Again, having no experience in the coffee area myself, what about local places? I know a really cute place just opened near us and they are always packed!

Personally, I prefer to save the calories of a fancy coffee for a really big piece of cheesecake or chocolate something or ice cream sundae or......

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Posted: Aug 24 2005 at 6:02pm | IP Logged Quote Cay Gibson

My 15 yr old dd and 12 yr old ds and I sneak off to Starbucks whenever we can. It took forever to get a SB in our neck of the swamps. My dh thinks we're half cracked to pay $4 bucks for a cup of coffee.

But I still find myself partial to Joe Muggs at our Books-A-Million store. I think my 12 yr old does too.

Anyone know of any hanky-panky going on with Joe Muggs? If not, I'll be comforted in the fact I can still get my cuppa mugg there.   

I adored the quotes on my SB cups. I only came across one that was questionable. . And it wasn't so off the wall that I panicked.

Now I see the writing on the...cup!


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Posted: Aug 24 2005 at 6:07pm | IP Logged Quote amiefriedl

My husband emailed Starbucks HQ and they set back some whimpy letter about 'diversity'. As if providing innocent children with info about sodomy is diverse - and not perverse. Their response was pathetic. We have sent the info to all our relatives that are Starbuck's heaviest users.

It is definitely important that each person contact the HQ of SB to make their opinion known. Then giving up your fav cuppa' joe with be more purposeful.

I'm enjoying the local mom and pop place now. It is closer anyhow. My husband quit coffee 2-3 months ago but he has on 3 occasions treated himself to a SB mocha since. Well that is over. I'm going to forward the info to my local homeschool loop too. Thanks Elizabeth.

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Posted: Aug 24 2005 at 8:30pm | IP Logged Quote theNetSmith

you can write to Starbucks here.

I wrote:
I recently read of your campaign to normalize homosexuality with crass quotations on your disposable coffee cups. Due to this "social responsibility" blunder, coupled with the news that the Starbucks company regularly endorses and promotes "gay pride" events, I will no longer purchase products from any of your stores. You may think you are supporting diversity...perhaps you don't realize that you are supporting a liberal minority in a society that is visibly turning back to its conservative foundations. Keep it up, and I believe that you will eventually find yourselves also a minority...in the coffee industry.

i feel better.

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Posted: Aug 26 2005 at 5:32pm | IP Logged Quote Elizabeth

Starbucks responded to me today:

Dear Ms. Foss,



Thank you for writing Starbucks Coffee Company.



At Starbucks, we embrace diversity as an essential component of the way we do business. We embrace all people and promote an environment that is respectful and inclusive for everyone.



As a way to reflect the global community we serve, we actively look for ways to celebrate diversity through volunteering, product donations and sponsorships. We are also deeply committed to supporting our partners' passion for their individual communities by matching financial gifts and supporting volunteer time they give to local organizations. We believe our best opportunity to engage in the community is through their efforts.





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Posted: Aug 27 2005 at 3:08pm | IP Logged Quote theNetSmith

at least they don't appear to be sending back form-letter responses. here is mine:

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Dear Mr. Smith,

Thank you for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.

As a Company, we are deeply committed to our Mission Statement and Guiding Principles. One of our six principles is "embracing diversity as an essential component to the way we do business." This includes the gay and lesbian community.

Starbucks has a long history of giving back to communities where we operate. Supporting local events like the San Diego Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Festival gives us the opportunity to give back to the community of San Diego. We also strive to support organizations that are important to our partners (employees) and customers. Starbucks was among many local and national companies listed as a sponsor and participant, including the San Diego County Police Chiefs and Sheriff's Association.

Starbucks is aware that three sex offenders volunteered for the San Diego Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Festival this year. The three volunteers have resigned as Pride Festival volunteers. The Pride Festival organizers are also taking steps to institute new screening procedures for volunteers and staff who work at next year's event.

Again, thank you for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.


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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 6:12pm | IP Logged Quote momwise

Dd was having pangs at Barnes and Noble yesterday so we swung into the Einstein Bros. Bagles next door for a Iced Mocha. It was pretty tasty. Unfortunately that was the only kind besides plain. Cost $2.99.

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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 6:29pm | IP Logged Quote Kelly

No, no, NO! I can't believe it! I'm a No Foam Latte Extra Hot addict...and they're building a Starbucks within spitting distance of us, at last. Say it ain't so! Wah!

I had noticed those silly things on the side of the cups, too, and had commented on how goofy they were. I probably shouldn't be surprised about their corporate donations to PP and other outrageous groups. But I'm sad to say goodbye to my lattes...

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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 6:38pm | IP Logged Quote Elizabeth

There, there, Kelly. It only takes a week or so and you'll be over the addiction. Just don't go close enough to smell it and don't hug anyone who has actually been inside. You'll do just fine...

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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 7:53pm | IP Logged Quote Kelly

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There, there, Kelly. It only takes a week or so and you'll be over the addiction. Just don't go close enough to smell it and don't hug anyone who has actually been inside. You'll do just fine...


Sniff sniff. I announced The Boycott to the family and they are in shock. What? Mom? Renouncing "Bucktooths" (our family name for StarBucks...)??? Pas possible! But, we shall overcome! Lead, kindly Light! And meanwhile, stay far, far away from those enticing aromas, per your recommendation, Elizabeth.

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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 8:13pm | IP Logged Quote alicegunther

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Sniff sniff. I announced The Boycott to the family and they are in shock. What? Mom? Renouncing "Bucktooths" (our family name for StarBucks...)??? Pas possible! But, we shall overcome! Lead, kindly Light! And meanwhile, stay far, far away from those enticing aromas, per your recommendation, Elizabeth.


LOL! I am sorry for you, especially now that a Starbuck's is finally opening nearby, but this passage is so funny! Nice job finding humor in a disappointing situation.

From a fellow coffee lover,

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Posted: Aug 28 2005 at 8:22pm | IP Logged Quote alicegunther

P.S. Ever since my husband splurged for the fabulous Bunn Coffee Maker, I have had no desire to go to Starbuck's (or anywhere else for that matter). It consistently makes excellent coffee, and best of all, the thermal carafe keeps the coffee hot without making it bitter after a few minutes. It's so handy that I can even brew a pot and bring it to a friend's house right in the carafe!

It's expensive, but after a few weeks of a Starbuck's boycott, you'll all have plenty of money to spare!

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Ha ha, Alice. Your bubble hit my bubble. My husband---feeling deeply for his Bucktooth-deprived bride---sprung for a fancy cappucino maker today. The kids found it for me at a store and convinced Dad that it was a lot cheaper than the 9000-a-week (or so it seems) Starbuck coffees we consume...

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My husband---feeling deeply for his Bucktooth-deprived bride---sprung for a fancy cappucino maker today.


Hurrah! Now this just makes my whole night! So glad to hear you will be swimming in cappuccino!

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My husband---feeling deeply for his Bucktooth-deprived bride---sprung for a fancy cappucino maker today.


Hurrah! Now this just makes my whole night! So glad to hear you will be swimming in cappuccino!


Yup, brown teeth and all

Thanks for all your support, fellow caffeine addicts,

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I resurrected this thread because this morning, my dear husband brewed coffee and offered me a cup. I took a whiff and refused (sweetly). And then I got to thinking...

in August 2005, I gave up Starbucks. I've probably had fewer than ten coffee drinks (frozen drinks included) since then at the two other local coffee shops. Lest you think I have incredible self control, let me remind you that I threw up for nine months of that time and coffee really didn't have any appeal for me.

But now I'm back in that old familiar sleep-deprived, craving-something-sweet mindset and I don't want coffee any more. I know I'm better off without it. I know I'm more even-tempered. And I also know that the two times in my life I've struggled with depression are, coincidentally?, the only two times I've been a caffeine drinker. Hmmm...

So, I'm sipping postpartum tea and milkmaid tea and counting all the pennies I've saved as I drive by the Starbucks.

But I do admit to missing having someone do something exactly the way I want it, with a smile every time.

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This couldn't have come at a better time Elizabeth. I have decided to de-caffinate myself and I'm not looking forward to it. Luckily, I never got addicted to Starbucks. For me it is coffee with lots of cream and sugar or black tea. I'd like to think tea has less caffine, but I guess caffine is still caffine! You've given me some encouragement!
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I wasn't on this board when the original thread was going on. I was particularly amused by the response from SB to Elizabeth -- Dear Ms. Foss. I never thought of Elizabeth that way!!   

Actually, I've never been a fan of SB's product - the coffee always tastes burned to me. As to Caribou, this summer dd#2 married the man who had been her boss at Caribou two summers ago, so I guess Caribou sets pretty well with this family!

We have a cappuccino maker that does a great job (the machine AND the cappuccino maker -- I never use it, but dh makes some very nice drinks on it). We've made some excellent chai lattes by using spiced tea bags, sugar, and milk warmed in the microwave. Definitely much cheaper than buying a drink somewhere else or buying chai mix.

I'm moving from coffee to green tea in the a.m. -- black tea, which I truly enjoy, is too rough on my stomach first thing in the morning.

It is one of the tricky parts of life in *these times* to realize how much companies that are part of our everyday lives embrace so many really rotten agendas.

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Hi All,

It is funny that you bring this up of all weeks...I have been on a little Starbuck's kick lately. I read this thread a long time ago...felt like in the midst of my little DS having many, many surgeries, I could only give up SO much...and SB wasn't going to be it. I know, pathetic, but true...This past week I had to give up on a part time business commitment I had been involved in because it became very apparent to me there was a real conflict of Church teachings and this business. It has been pretty humbling to explain to people that thought I was gungho on this that now I am NOT, but I need that kind of mortification anyway. Anyhoo, this has got me thinking...I am done with Starbuck's... THERE, I SAID IT!!

I, too, Elizabeth, can't do caffeine anymore, it makes me sooo sick, after having been the Caffeine, "I'll take mine fully leaded thank you very much and some chocolate on the side"--kind of girl. I have held on to some of these attatchments when my little one was so acutely needy (had a trach, g-tube)and I couldn't bare to give up anymore...but I feel the Blessed Mother, being the perfect Mother that she is, whispering to me to let go..it is okay now, I don't need those "things" after all. I thank HER for that Grace.

Sorry to ramble..

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the Blessed Mother, being the perfect Mother that she is, whispering to me to let go..it is okay now, I don't need those "things" after all. I thank HER for that Grace.

This is a perfectly beautiful sentiment. How very true.

I will pray for your son.

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