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Posted: Nov 11 2006 at 9:19pm | IP Logged Quote JuliaT

I have just finished Real Learning. I have been blessed by this reading. It has got me all fired up and ready to conquer the homeschool world, but I don't how to go about it in a practical way.

I have looked at the booklists at the back of the book. I like what I see. Elixabeth says in the book that you take the booklist and apply the principles that are in the book. She also says that the list is not the curriculum that I need to write the curriculum. But I don't know how. I need something a bit more specific. I need a step by step on how to do it.

Do you use the books for copywork, spelling and grammar? What about history? Do you just do map work (if applicable)and narration with the book? I want to do more than that because that is what we are doing now with Ambleside and it isn't working for my dd (7). She is a hands-on girl and all of the narration is painful for her. But I don't know how to think up actvities for the books. That seems like a lot of work to me. Also, I am not that creative. This is taxing my brain.

Is there anyone who is using the booklists as their curriculum or does something similar. Do you do activites for history or is it just narrations? If you do activities, how do you come up with your ideas? I really, really want to do this for next year but I am stumped as to how to do it.

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Posted: Nov 13 2006 at 10:05pm | IP Logged Quote Taffy

Julia,

I'm still trying to figure all of this out too but I'll share what little I know.

Narration is at the core of real learning. It is the best evaluator for comprehension. If you truly understand something, you can explain it to someone else. But there are many ways to narrate! Check out 49 Ways to Narrate and narrations AARGH.

I wonder whether the material at Ambleside might not be very interesting to her? Maybe try to interject readings that she finds more interesting with readings that you feel are important for her to read. Just because a reading is fun doesn't make it twaddle. And just because a reading is on a list of "classic" or "great books" doesn't mean that you'll learn anything from it (or enjoy reading it). I remember having to read Orwell's 1984 in high school. I hated it so much I couldn't finish it. (Never mind learn anything from it.) My husband read this book at the same age simply for enjoyment!

I've also just finished reading Cay Gibson's book "Literature Alive!" and it's so full of inspiring ideas. Many other ideas are online. Check out Homeschool Share and Author Jan Brett's Home Page.

There are many unit studies posted online that cover all the major subjects. Many can be found here at this board. There's a lot to be gleaned from the Five in a Row books too. And, Cay might have another copy of "Literature Alive!" kicking around. I highly recommend it.

Here's a site that you may find useful as well. It's a curriculum derived from the original PNEU. Charlotte's Daughters ... learning from Charlotte Mason and the Parents' National Educational Union

I hope to have helped rather than add to the confusion. Maybe someone with more practice at this can help?

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Posted: Nov 14 2006 at 6:57am | IP Logged Quote JuliaT

Taffy, THANK YOU! From reading your post, I think I am on the right track. I just am at a loss at how to come up with ideas for history and science that relate to a book.

AO isn't working because they go way too slow in reading a book. They say in order to develop a relationship with a book you need to read it slowly. I don't know if that is true. Can't you foster a relationship by going deeper? Also, it is just reading. My dd loves doing experiments, activities and crafts. So what I was planning to do was take the booklist from RL and meld in some of the books from AO and make a curriculum from that, comlete with activities and experiments.

The first book I want to read with my dd is Little Princess. I started reading it on Sun. and made notes as I went along. I surprised myself at all that I came up with. I guess I am just a bit insecure at how to do the rabbit trails. Maybe I just need to do it and experience will rub the insecurity off.

Thanks again for your input. I will look at the resources you suggested and maybe I can get ideas from them as well.

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Posted: Nov 14 2006 at 7:19am | IP Logged Quote lilac hill

JuliaT wrote:
... but I don't how to go about it in a practical way.
...She is a hands-on girl and all of the narration is painful for her. But I don't know how to think up actvities for the books. That seems like a lot of work to me. Also, I am not that creative. This is taxing my brain.

...Blessings,
Julia
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I have a hands on, now 12 year old, who did not start reading independantly until she was 9.
We used Elizabeth's book list, Ambleside suggestions and Mater Amabilis recommendations.
For history we would choose a "living book" once we picked a time period . I usually do a world history section and an American history section but we also study a time period based on planned vacations or local events. I would read it aloud. She narrated, and yes we did start with one sentence narrations, and I typed and printed. DD colored a picture to illustrate the story. We continued in this manner for a few years. Our reading selections increased in length and truely she did some of her own written narrations this year. When we transitioned to her own writing we were back to one sentence, but that is increasing.
After history we selected a science area, whatever looked good on the library shelf, PBS Nature program, or something inspired by our Kids Discover magazine or whatever was happening at home. A pile of picture books from the non-fiction section of the library and we read them for a week looking for a chance to do an experiement or a chance to draw a picture.
BTW, we do not do science or history every day of the week.
After that everything was gravy--pick an author , illustrator, theme, a section from the Real Learning list, something from the archives here--get the pile of books and read them together. We tried to recreate the illustrator's techniques with drawing, practiced using different voices (gave her a chance to read aloud), and tried collages.
Copywork was a weekly letter ( sometimes they were 3 sentences but with a picture or glitter art it was successful) to a family member, a seasonal poem, or a new prayer.
Because DD is busy adn Does not like academics, we did it for a specific time period.
As a 12 yo 6th grader we have worked up to 30 minute lessons. Last year it was 20 minutes and before that lessons could be a short as 10 minutes. The deal is that she has to do her best for the time period, that tiumer is wearing out now. Allowing DD to stand when she worked really helped.

I hope this helps.
There are so many good ideas on this list it is wonderful and overwhelming at the same time. Maybe you could try a few things, then change up every few weeks?

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Posted: Nov 14 2006 at 12:29pm | IP Logged Quote TracyQ

Julia,
    Simply Charlotte Mason has a nice website that might be of help. They have a *Getting Started* section here:
Getting Started

    They answer the question, *How to Make the Transition to the Charlotte Mason approach* here that has some great thoughts and ideas and a bit of direction:
How to Make the Transition to CM

   They have some schedules listed there, and some ideas of how to go through history, etc. Of course, only use the site as it best fits YOUR family, but it might be a help for you to see how they guide, and substitute for your family what won't work, like Catholic Faith study as opposed to their Bible study, etc., or at the very least, may give you an idea of how to transition to the CM method of learning.

Hope this helps some!

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Posted: Nov 14 2006 at 3:16pm | IP Logged Quote JuliaT

Viv,

    Thank you for telling me how you did it with your dd. I think I am making this harder than it really needs to be. I like your suggestions about making collages and copying the illustrator's techniques.

Tracy,

    Thanks for the links. I have skimmed through this site before but have never spent a big chunk of time there. I read the links that you gave and I will go back there later tonight to take an even deeper look. You were very helpful.


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