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Laura Forum Pro
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Shayna is in the MODG program because I stress about her getting a diploma and using an accredited program for HS.
I do it on my own for K-8.
How many of you do high school on your own?
Do they then have to take the GED exam?
Or do SAT's Suffice?
Fear/Worry is what holds me back from doing so many things that I would love to do.
I have been following the unschooling thread of late and enjoying it.
CM/Eclectic would be my school of choice. I am still digesting the great La Leche League post
But FEAR/Worry is what lies at the bottom of it and as a Catholic Christian woman I know that this should not be!
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Mary G Forum All-Star
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Laura:
I'm doing the same thing -- my 14 yod came home to homeschool highschool, primarily because she wanted to learn languages -- Irish, French and German her freshman year alone ! So we're using Seton with her as it's an accredited program, a 3rd-party grading to make it objective (so she doesn't think I'm just being picky) nd it's not an onerous curriculum so she has time to do her other languages (she's only doing French with Seton), home ec, Irish History and her outside activities. Catie had been in Catholic school K-5, than second half of 7th thru 8th so for her, she really only did homeschool 2.5 years and prefers testing, grades and assignments to keep her on track.
My littles I'm planning to homeschool all the way through. Their "schooling" will be an eclectic mix (or mess, depending on how I feel that day ) of unschooling, CM, Montessori, unit studies, etc. I'm hoping they never opt for workbooks, graded assignments, or objective graders.
Each child is so different that you adapt to what works. Having a high schooler is a major dilemma for hs'ers because of the desire to have them attend college. One suggesiton I've seen si to start looking at those possible colleges, see what they require, go visit, make contact -- even in the freshman year. Show them what your child is doing/planning and ask them what is needed.
Cafi Cohen's book, And What About College is a big help too. As is her earlier book, Homeschooling the High School Years (or some similar title)....HSLDA has also started a hs'ing thru highschool section on their website: HSLDA: Homeschooling thru High School where you also might find some help.
Blessings -- and keep praying (esp thru the high school years
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Where's the great La Leche League post???
__________________ Elizabeth Foss is no longer a member of this forum. Discussions now reflect the current management & are not necessarily expressions of her book, *Real Learning*, her current work, or her philosophy. (posted by E. Foss, Jan 2011)
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Mary G Forum All-Star
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Elizabeth wrote:
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Elizabeth: It's under the "unschooling" thread, "unschooling and self-direction". Look for Julie in Cinci's post, I think it's the 3rd down.
Blessings,
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Laura,
We did it on our own with our first son. He just needed his SATs and a brief transcript, no GED. The college of his choice was very homeschool friendly (TAC) and that was the only one he applied to so I don't know if it would have been more difficult otherwise.
My second son presently a homeschooled junior will probably go the junior college route which is often done around here... take college classes during high school or just afterwards, and then transfer from there if he wants to go on.
I live in a different part of the country from you so maybe it is different here -- I even know an unschooled highschooler who is presently getting her Master's Degree in the U Cal system here.
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WJFR wrote:
I even know an unschooled highschooler who is presently getting her Master's Degree in the U Cal system here. |
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That's cool! I tried to get admissions requirements for UC schools for undergraduate only to find out that they WILL NOT even consider homeschooled kids. HS kids have to go to junior college first, period. Isn't that amazing?
Glad that this unschooler has made it into their graduate program.
Sigh - lots ot things to consider at all times.
Julie
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We are currently homeschooling our hs on "our own" through a combination of methods - using Kolbe curriculum but not getting transcript from them, tutors in foreign languages and a small British Lit class this year. We've done Seton one year but while our daughter did well, it didn't really work for us. She is being avidly recruited by one school, and should have no trouble getting into her top choice (with automatic scholarship based on her SAT). We noticed that Vanderbilt University in Tennessee has a form for filling out class work for homeschoolers but considers them on the same basis as anyone else. We have only come across one school our dd considers that we are unsure how they will respond. Their on-line entrance requirements require graduation from an accredited high school. We have e-mailed them asking about how they would handle a graduate from an unacredited high school.
HSLDA will help you put together a transcript if needed. We get one from our church school cover.
In general, our experience has been that if you have respectable SAT or ACT scores, no one cares whether or not you were homeschooled, regular schooled or private schooled.
Keep good records of what you have done accademically and also keep a record of community and other outside involvement. Be sure to have them interact with a few outside teachers/tutors that can write letters of recommendation for them.
We hope this helps.
Janet
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Laura Forum Pro
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Mary G. wrote:
Laura:
Cafi Cohen's book, And What About College is a big help too. As is her earlier book, Homeschooling the High School Years (or some similar title)....
Blessings -- and keep praying (esp thru the high school years |
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What about A Home-Designed Form-U-La by Barb Shelton?
Does anyone have a review of this book?
I would like to know which would be a better purchase for my buck!
__________________ JMJ,
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juliecinci wrote:
HS kids have to go to junior college first, period. Isn't that amazing?
Glad that this unschooler has made it into their graduate program.Julie |
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She went to some small college for her undergrad years -- I forget which one it was, I want to say Pepperdine but am not sure, maybe it was Pacifica? -- then has gone on from there.
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Kelly Forum All-Star
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We just got back from doing some college tours of big New England schools, and I never noticed any mention of the need for an "accredited highschool" on the applications. Maybe I missed something, but it seemed to me they were looking much more at standardized test results, the challenging level of the highschool classes, and the general life experiences of the applicant.
That being said, we are doing a combination of on-line classes, a Seton self-paced class, a Mom-class or two, and tutors. I'm considering using that NARHS program out of Maine, that takes your material/coursework and transcribes it into bonafide credit hours, then provides you with a real, honest-to-goodness high school transcript. The advantage is that you occasionally hear of schools/military being obsessive about a "real" transcript. I have heard that many colleges do like to see some evidence from outside teachers that your child is capable of doing traditional classes. Most of the hs moms I know have solved this by dual-enrolling their students in local junior colleges, thereby accruing credit hours AND a verifiable track record.
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Laura Forum Pro
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Kelly,
Could you tell me more about the NARHS program (what does it stand for?) out of Maine (which I might add is "The Way Life Should Be" --I am from Madawaska, Maine and my dh is from Frenchville, Maine. ) We would love to retire there one day.
As with most, money is tight and so I was wondering at the cost. It seems that so many of us are wishing and wanting to home school high school on our own, but want the security of someone taking care of our records. I checked out a school that someone had mentioned....Clonlara or some such name...OUCH! The cost was unbelievable.
That is why I had asked about Barb or Cafi's book above, but I guess noone here uses them both in order to make a comparison for me.
It sounds like the NARHS program you mentioned would just be for your record keeping right? Are they reasonalby priced?
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Mary G Forum All-Star
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Laura:
I figured Clonlara is so high becuase they have to craft what you give them into an "accredited" transcript ... I didn't think the cost was worth it so 14 yod is doing Seton, an accredited, and is still able to do lots of her own interests -- languages, home ec, etc.
Seton was about half what Clonlara wanted and that included the books -- so we sacrified autonomy, but I think it's better as 14yod is happier with an "objective" grader, Seton has great stuff online (including immediate grading of tests), and dd went to parochial schools more than she was hs'ed, so she's happy.
Blessings!
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We don't flaunt and we don't hide our homeschooling. As a church school state we do get an official looking high school transcript - but a sister of mine made up her own - HSLDA would help you put it together. I am not familiar with the other books.
Another school that provides a transcript is Kolbe Academy. You do not give up flexibility to use them because you use whatever of their stuff you like and substitute your own stuff wherever you want. You simply have to provide sample work in each subject/quarter and some paperwork. They have a very good pamphlet - short but inexpensive and easy to read called "Parent as Counselor" and some very helpful forms for laying out 4 years of high school - ie what to call the courses. This is available for purchase whether or not you sign up with them.
Most colleges want a course called World History or some such and an American History and Civics, etc. It is nice to know which specific courses are desired.
Go on-line and look at some of the colleges that your child might be interested in and see their requirements for admissions. That gives you some idea of what to do.
As we fill out our applications, there are only a few areas that would mark us as homeschoolers. Our transcript is not one of them. Most applications have you fill out leadership roles (elected or appointed) and none of our stuff is school stuff as our school is a graduating class of one. They also ask for academic honors and we have no National Honor Society, Math team, etc. so that part is pretty empty. Most of our stuff fits in the category of volunteer work or other. Also they ask for class rank and class size. We had to fill in N/A there.
We'll see if anyone questions us about our homeschool and we have plenty of papers, lists of books used, etc. in case we are questioned. We also have a mixture so that we have some verification of independent grading.
We'll see what happens as we will be sending in applications within the month.
Hope this helps.
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Laura Forum Pro
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Thanks Janet. I take it that you belong to HSLDA then?
I assume that they would help you with a transcript only if you were a member right?
Your post helps me to relax a little and stop stressing.
My oldest daughter who is enrolled with MODG has decided to go to Community College for Culinary Arts so we are all set. Now that I am thinking of not enrolling for Zach who will be in the 9th grade next year I cannot check out colleges as he is currently not sure what he wants to do! He does often mention becoming a Police Officer.
Shayna would have had such a lovely time if I had put together her own curriculum (making sure of course that we covered everything we had to) There are so many fun things that you could use for a daughter who wants to go into the Culinary Arts...even Kitchen Math!
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Laura,
Even if you don't know which school he'd likely go to, you still may want to check out a variety of colleges on-line. Just look at their admissions requirements.
As a starter you might look at a local state university - these are usually cheapest as you get in-state tuition and they are also reasonably close to home so that you are not paying air fare every year. Also check an elite or pie in the sky school that excels in the area of your child's greatest strength or interest. And of course, don't neglect to look at the orthodox Catholic colleges.
Do not eliminate any school because of its tuition. We have found that sometimes these schools also offer huge scholarships and have lots of money. Even among state schools within a state system, one may offer more in scholarships than another. You can find out things like minimum SAT or ACT scores, average scores on these tests for incoming Freshman, etc. Some offer scholarships based on an SAT/ACT score. Browsing like this just gives you a feel for what will be expected later and helps in the planning. For instance, it sure would have been nice if I had done this 9th grade instead of 11th grade as her top choice requires 2 lab sciences for admissions and we had to scramble a little to fulfill
that bullet. Also knowing that volunteer work and such is very important, I would have done a better job recording what we did do and have more documentation to prove it - saved a program from the nursing home concert she gave, etc.
Even if none of these schools are on the college choices later on down the road, you will more than likely have covered all the contingencies. It is nice to know that certain colleges require the submission of AP test scores, so you know that before you are almost through with high school.
Glad you are more relaxed. It really doesn't seem to be a major issue - but I must admit that there does seem to be more mom/teacher stress in the high school years and suddenly we had to assign grades to things besides Math. I did get advice on how to grade, but you probably have a lot of that from MODG.
Janet
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Laura,
NARHS stands for North Atlantic Regional High School or something like that. They have a website, just type in NARHS. They do not offer any classes, they just transcribe what you provide them into credit hours and after x number of credit hours, you get a diploma. It's really more polished than I make it sound. It's not Catholic, but I believe the principal of the school homeschooled some or all of his children, so they apparently are very easy to work with. People at Regina Coeli Academy (that's the islas.org crowd) have used NARHS and praise it. I believe the cost is about $300 per recorded year (but I may be off on the price, so don't hold me to that). Don't know how that stacks up next to Clonlara, but they do seem to do a pretty good job.
I hear Maine is a beautiful state!
Kelly (on the other side of the continent) in FL
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Laura,
You mentioned an interest in police work. What a small world. That is what my nephew(also homeschooled) is pursuing. You might be interested in knowing that the police "recruiter" here recommends that his candidates get a degree first so that they have a back-up in case of injury. Our police officers don't make a lot for risking their lives for us and I guess they try to make sure their officers have many options. So even if college isn't appealing right now it might be part of the goals in becoming a police officer.
Janet
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