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I scoured the Mason sites (read tons more about the method) and came up with a plan based on Ambleside, Mater Amabilis, Charlotte Mason Help, Kolbe, and of course, you lovely ladies here  . I'm super excited about my plans.
I've been happily researching for next year and now have a draft of my subjects. I extended them out by day and it looks like my hours vary daily between 2.7 hrs to 3.8 hrs. I wonder if this is average for second grade, or am I too light or too heavy?
- Grammar 20m 5x
- Phonics 20m 5x
- Writing 10m 5x
- Reading Aloud 10m 5x
- Math 20-30m 5x
- Recorder 20m 5x
- Spanish (listening to audio book) 10m 3x
- Science 40m 2x
- Literature 20m 2x
- History – World 30m 2x
- American History 30m 2x
- Saints 10m 2x
- Bible 10m 1x
- Catechism 10m 1x
- Art 20m 1x
- Art – Picture Study 5m 1x
- Maps/Geography 20m 1x
- Classical Music Study 20m 1x
- Nature study 20m 1x
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Gosh, that looks like a lot for 2nd grade. But maybe that's just my opinion. I have some busy boys so getting them to sit for that long would not be easy.
In my case, I think I would cut down on the amount of time spent for the histories and science, depending on what materials I am using.
I've also not been one to start too much grammar in second.
That's just my first thought though. Like I said, I have boys that are quite active and I don't think they could attend for that length of time. Perhaps your child can, in which case I am jealous. 
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Lara, just at a quick glance: My current second grader has the grammar, phonics, writing labeled as one thing and probably average about 20 minutes 4x and we ended up dropping recorder because she is in our church choir (meets once a week for 90 minutes and they sing once a month at mass & special events; she also has ballet once a week). She doesn't spend as much time on science either. The rest of your list looks very similar to ours minus the Spanish. (I've included independent reading time on her schedule at least 30min 5x which might be your Literature). As for History I didn't split them, I'm sticking to a four year rotation, we do end up having it on our schedule 4x. One day is strictly for crafts, another for filling in journals (mostly drawing and small paragraph for now) or trails.
I guess we do average about 2.5 - 3.0 daily on school work. She ends up having lots of outside time daily before afternoon activities (we start our school day no later than 8:00 am, we're early birds  )
Like Becky mentioned, if your child can do it, it looks good 
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Lara~
That looks similar to my 1st-2nd grader.
She is lighter on the Grammar/Phonics/Writing time. She does about 5-10 minutes of copywork 4/week. And, then she writes stories on her own....which, if she didn't do at this age, I wouldn't require. We haven't started grammar/dictation yet. She does read aloud to me about 5-10 minutes 3-4/week.
And, we probably don't do 120 minutes of history every week. Maybe 1/2 that....
And.....math seems like a lot to me too....but then if I included games, cooking, computer games, etc.....it would be that.....but she probably only does 15 min of math-seatwork about 4/week.
So, I'd say our time range is about 2-3 hours, 4/week.
I think the "time spent" is also dependent on if you have older siblings or not. There is NO WAY my first two girls spent 3 hours "doing school" a couple years ago. But, NOW.....my 2nd grader participates in the older girls stuff too, so it probably ends up being more.
Her own independent work is about 45 minutes/day. Math, copywork, reading.
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I feel like I was you two years ago when I planned. Such excitement and high hopes and detailed plans!
Then my reality hit. 
I hope your reality isn't a shock to you, for some reason it was to me.
Our 2nd grade looks like this:
Explode the Code (3 pages a day)
Handwriting without Tears (1 page a day)
Religion (either Baltimore or Faith and Life catechism or Saint of the Day, followed by narration)
Teaching Textbooks 3 math (1 lesson a day).
Prima Latina (studying a bit every day, totalling 1 lesson a week)
Primary Language Lessons (1 lesson a day... me usually truncating the writing elements severely since getting my son to write is like pulling teeth)
Poetry (studying about 2-4 lines a day... about a poem every week or two)... illustrating it at the end.
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And that's the bare bones what we do every day... it usually lasts 2 hours most.
Then we have good days or richer days where I do a bit of music appreciation (listening to a CD, reading a story about a composer), myths for narration once a week, How Our Nation Began... history happens about twice a week. I wanted to do a nature walk weekly since we live in a fantastic, rich, nature-lover's area but that doesn't always happen, we tend to hibernate in winter especially. I had great art plans which almost NEVER happen. I had hoped to do science experiments weekly... almost never happens. I'd hoped to do Spanish since I'm proficient myself in it, but that doesn't happen.
I am tempted to feel like such a failure for lack of interesting, hands on, enrichment things. But I've learned that my IDEAL homeschooling day is much different than what my REAL homeschooling day can look like based on my own temperment and theirs. We do much more bookwork than I had envisioned. Much less "cool stuff."
But I take great comfort in two things: I'm focusing very much on domestic discipline and responsibility around here... the kids have chores and are expected to pitch in and do them well, every day. I think this is as important as any school lesson.
Also, we are tremendously blessed to live now quite near to our parish where we walk to Mass every day. And this is a blessing that I can't underestimate at all. So for all my educational failures, I know that my kids are provide with the best opportunity I could ask for with daily Mass.
Anyway, I would just encourage you to keep up the excitement and motivation but to not get too down if you find things not panning out how you had hoped. 
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I went through a down period this year. I was so excited about starting first grade, but with being 9 months pregnant it was difficult match up reality to dreams. Then the baby came in September and we went to a very basic reading, math, religion schedule. I had to let go of my *perfect day* and go with a *good enough* day. I'm learning to set high goals, but not to let daily life and twists and turns that make those goals impossible get me too sidetracked. Thanks for the reality check!
I was thinking I was a little heavy on work, but there's so much I want to cover. I just need to breathe and go through my lists again and remember that I still have three other children to care for.
Luckily, my two oldest have great attention spans (at least this year). The third in line is going to require a whole new way of teaching. I'm so glad I have four more years before I have to tackle that issue!
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mamaslearning wrote:
I'm super excited about my plans
- Grammar 20m 5x
- Phonics 20m 5x
- Writing 10m 5x
- Reading Aloud 10m 5x
- Math 20-30m 5x
- Recorder 20m 5x
- Spanish (listening to audio book) 10m 3x
- Science 40m 2x
- Literature 20m 2x
- History – World 30m 2x
- American History 30m 2x
- Saints 10m 2x
- Bible 10m 1x
- Catechism 10m 1x
- Art 20m 1x
- Art – Picture Study 5m 1x
- Maps/Geography 20m 1x
- Classical Music Study 20m 1x
- Nature study 20m 1x
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Love your list, Lara!!!! I think it's very doable! It looks a lot like the list I have for next year for my 2nd grader!!!
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I'm lighter on grammar (I don't do that for a couple more years, and no dictation either at this age).
Phonics time is probably a little less too...maybe 10 min/day.
I probably spend more time on nature study each week, but it's through reading picture books or reading Nature Friend Magazine aloud. So...we're probably Nature study 10m 5x, with the goal of one nature walk/wk.
Math would be on the lower, 20 min side.
Substitute Latin for Spanish here.
Catechism/FHC prep is 10-15m 5x.
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Those are my differences. I think you've got a really good outline in place.
Have you laid it out in a calendar program or in a table to see how it looks on paper yet? That always helps me a lot to see what I'd be doing when..and if it all fits in a day! And then, after about 3 weeks of living it I know exactly where I need to make a few adjustments and do so.
I think you've got a really great start, Lara!
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Lara~
Coming back to say how GREAT this exercise is...of putting "time" to each thing is in order to help you focus in, prioritize and set yourself up for success. It's the beginning of a very do-able plan and is so EXCITING! It's one thing to write everything down that you want to do, but you're much closer to having a do-able plan when you start putting time to everything to see if it's manageable and how it needs to be tweaked.
Also, wanted to mention that things like your Art Apprec 5 min 1/week....it's good to have that WRITTEN...cuz it will remind you THAT IT's ONLY 5 min when you're tempted to let it slide. 5 teeny-weeny minutes a week that will reap HUGE rewards!
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SuzanneG wrote:
Also, wanted to mention that things like your Art Apprec 5 min 1/week....it's good to have that WRITTEN...cuz it will remind you THAT IT's ONLY 5 min when you're tempted to let it slide. 5 teeny-weeny minutes a week that will reap HUGE rewards! |
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I agree and was much in need of this reminder!
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It looks like a really good schedule!
I think we are a little lighter on a few things and heavier on others, but overall it looks similar to what I do with my dd.
The only area where I'd like to make a suggestion would be in the area of art. Honestly, 20 mins once a week seems like too little to me. Admittedly, we probably spend more time on art than many folks,(we often let art take up the majority of an afternoon, several times per week) but I don't know how you can get through an art lesson/project in less than an hour or so and still leave room for creativity and exploration. I know once my dd (9) gets started on art, she really gets lost in it and can take a LONG time enjoying the process. Plus, the many benefits of including plenty of art in the curriculum are well established.
So, for those reasons, I encourage you to schedule a bit more time for art if at all possible.
Off my soapbox now. 
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lapazfarm wrote:
The only area where I'd like to make a suggestion would be in the area of art. Honestly, 20 mins once a week seems like too little to me. Admittedly, we probably spend more time on art than many folks,(we often let art take up the majority of an afternoon, several times per week) but I don't know how you can get through an art lesson/project in less than an hour or so and still leave room for creativity and exploration. |
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Yes! I tend not to think of "time" for art....only because it tends to happen on its own...so if I "counted" all the minutes they spent on art, it would be much more than what I scheduled for. But, it is important to allow for that to happen and schedule it in.
So, I would "schedule" an art project a week....maybe 20 minutes of MY TIME, with an hour OPEN for them to do/complete/explore.
I also put "art/craft time" on her list of things to do a couple times/week and let her decide what she wants to work on. But that IS designated time for something.
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Becky Parker wrote:
SuzanneG wrote:
Also, wanted to mention that things like your Art Apprec 5 min 1/week....it's good to have that WRITTEN...cuz it will remind you THAT IT's ONLY 5 min when you're tempted to let it slide. 5 teeny-weeny minutes a week that will reap HUGE rewards! |
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Ditto this sentiment. In years past it was always on my mind but just never got to it. Now it is a subject I've prepared for and on the schedule, so as short (or long if it is a project) it isn't ignored anymore .
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Reviving this thread with thoughts on what I'm using this year (my first year, yay  ). Is it too much, not enough?
History: (the big kahuna): Connecting with History: Volume One. Most of our Literature, Bible Study. Copywork, Memorization, Vocabulary... Still have to purchase many of the selections.
Religion: First Communion Catechism along with Angel Food for Boys and Girls (still have to get), Catholic Mosaic, CCD.
Poetry: I have The Real Mother Goose, A Treasury of Holly Hobbie, A Child's Garden of Verses, The Children's Classic Poetry Collection.
Phonics and Grammar: Informally. Will be reading Brian Cleary books.
Math: Am getting Family Math. Also will use the Math is Fun website.
Art: Drawing With Children, Child Sized Masterpieces, Draw Write Now 8, Deep Space Sparkle website.
Nature Study: I have The Kids' Nature Book, The Kids' Wildlife Book, selections from the Let's Read and Find Out series, Beatrix Potter stories, Wildlife Fact Files, various seasonal, animal, plant, insect books. Also will use the Handbook of Nature Study blog.
Virtue, Character, Grace, and Courtesy: Will be ordering various Little Flowers materials. The library has Emily Post books for kids. I have The Children's Book of Virtues, A Child's Book of Prayer in Art, Emilie Barnes' A Little Book of Manners. And I'm going to get Leading Little Ones to Mary.
Budget will be really tight after I get what I've mentioned here. History is the bulk of it. I think that since I didn't have a good grasp of history growing up that I want to make sure my children have a better understanding. My Dh is a huge history buff and always has been.
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seeker wrote:
Reviving this thread with thoughts on what I'm using this year (my first year, yay ). Is it too much, not enough?
History: (the big kahuna): Connecting with History: Volume One. Most of our Literature, Bible Study. Copywork, Memorization, Vocabulary... Still have to purchase many of the selections.
Religion: First Communion Catechism along with Angel Food for Boys and Girls (still have to get), Catholic Mosaic, CCD.
Poetry: I have The Real Mother Goose, A Treasury of Holly Hobbie, A Child's Garden of Verses, The Children's Classic Poetry Collection.
Phonics and Grammar: Informally. Will be reading Brian Cleary books.
Math: Am getting Family Math. Also will use the Math is Fun website.
Art: Drawing With Children, Child Sized Masterpieces, Draw Write Now 8, Deep Space Sparkle website.
Nature Study: I have The Kids' Nature Book, The Kids' Wildlife Book, selections from the Let's Read and Find Out series, Beatrix Potter stories, Wildlife Fact Files, various seasonal, animal, plant, insect books. Also will use the Handbook of Nature Study blog.
Virtue, Character, Grace, and Courtesy: Will be ordering various Little Flowers materials. The library has Emily Post books for kids. I have The Children's Book of Virtues, A Child's Book of Prayer in Art, Emilie Barnes' A Little Book of Manners. And I'm going to get Leading Little Ones to Mary.
Budget will be really tight after I get what I've mentioned here. History is the bulk of it. I think that since I didn't have a good grasp of history growing up that I want to make sure my children have a better understanding. My Dh is a huge history buff and always has been.
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It looks great to me! And very similar to my own plans for my DS, age 7.
Religion- we'll be doing a study of the Mass (20 mins 5x)
* Baltimore Catechism 1
* My Path to Heaven
* Rare Catholic Stories
* Catholic Mosaic
* The Mass Explained to Children
* Jesus Speaks to Me About the Mass
* Mini Mass Kit with lessons
* Learning to Follow the Mass
Language Arts (10-20 mins, 5x per week)
* Narration from other subjects (mostly history and religion)
* Copywork from other subjects (again, history and religion)
Science (40 mins, 2 times)
* Building Foundations of Scientific Understanding
Nature Study (20 mins 2x + one nature walk)
* Nature Walks
* Outdoor Hour Challenges
* Nature Friend Magazine
* Gardening and other hands on natural science
* Golden Guides- Birds, Insects, Pond Life, Trees, Wildflowers, Mammals
* One Small Square- Woods, Backyard, Pond
Literature (20 mins, 5x)
* The Jungle book
* Robinson Caruso
* The Wind in the Willows
Math (30 mins, 5x per week)
* Family Math
* Greg Tang Math books and others from the Living Math book list
* Multiplication.com and other math websites
* Teaching Textbooks 3 and/or 4
History (30 minutes, 5x per week)
* RC History vol 2 beginner level and/or intermediate level
Latin (5-10 mins, 4-5x per week)
* Minimus I
* Getting Started with Latin
Music (5-10 minutes, 4-5x per week)
* Lingua Angelica
* Our Musical Year
* Piano books
Music Appreciation (5-10 mins, 1 x per week)
* Music Masters CDs
* Library books on the various composers
Art (1x/lesson per week)
* Drawing with Children
* Artistic Pursuits
Art Appreciation (5-10 mins 1x per week)
* Mommy It's a Renoir
* Anholt's Artist Series of books
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Well, I've done a complete 180 for next year. I am still so overwhelmed, and in talking with hubby we decided to try a packaged curriculum this year. This way my husband (or somebody else) can pick up books and lessons plans and begin teaching if something were to keep me from teaching next year. I'm still torn about this decision, but I'm willing to try it for a year. It's a good compromise between my ideas and hubby's needs.
The nice thing is that this package is mainly covering the basic subjects, so I'm still going to add in living books for the electives and to supplement the core.
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The first year I hs we went with a similar plan. For the three years (only used it with my oldest) I used the program I noticed that I was adding and taking more away each year before I felt completely comfortable covering all the subjects with our book selections and following CM methods.
Sometimes that comfort level is really a matter of a gradual transition. It was for both my dh and I
By the time I had to decide with the younger ones I'd say both dh and I have been very comfortable with our style and choices.
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kristacecilia wrote:
Art (1x/lesson per week)
* Drawing with Children
* Artistic Pursuits
Art Appreciation (5-10 mins 1x per week)
* Mommy It's a Renoir
* Anholt's Artist Series of books
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Krista, we're using Artistic Pursuits for the first time too (as a family) and we've always enjoyed the Anholt books, they're wonderful
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I'm a little late.. but here's mine, based largely on Mater Amabilis 1A, but with some classical added in. My son is an advance reader, so he can do some of the main reading on his own. But I'm still not sure if its too much.. about 3 hrs/day. Trying to break down the days is the hardest for me, and what other children will do at the same time. Hoping to do a weekly schedule/checklist (like Maryan's) to be ready before baby comes next month to have ready to print each week, and edit slightly only if necessary.
I'd love anyone's input. K daughter will tag along for some read alouds, etc. Thanks!
Religion:
New Testament- 20 min 1/weekly
Catechism F&L 2-weekly 20 min.
Baltimore Catechism#1 - 10 min-2x/week
Saints 20 min.- 2x/week
Liturgical Year studies Lent, Advent, Easter
Math:
MEP Year 2a, 2b, 3a – 5x/week (30-40 min/day)
Drill – daily (sometimes part of MEP)
Living math books weekly if time
English
Reading aloud- daily
Writing- 10 min. daily
-Handwriting
-Written narration 2nd semester
-Copywork and Studied dictation
Grammar (PLL) 3x/week
Spelling Notebook 20 min/week
Vocabulary? - Wordly Wise?
Literature: (20 min/day)
Tales 2x/week
(myths and fairy tales)
Classic Children’s Literature (2-3x/week)
Poetry –daily for memorization 5m/5x/week
National History 20 min– 2x/weekly
Ancient History 20 min- 2x/week during ord. time
(Old Testament, Usborne Time Traveler, MA booklist, Mary Daly First Timeline)
Geography/Earth Studies- 20 min. 3x/week, plus map work:
Europe – read aloud/ 12 lessons each term (1x/week)
Maps- 36 lessons (2x/week term 1 and 2)
Weather – 36 lessons (2x/week term 2 and 3)
Nature Study- weekly 1 hr walk
Local natural area classes 1x/month
Crinkleroot books
One Small Square books
Science – twice weekly-
BFSU 1-2x/week
Hands on 1x/week (possibly MA year 1)
reading Bird book, Animal book by Burgess
Spanish 3x/week
Latin- 2x/week
Art 30-40 min/week (1-2x)
Picture study 10 min. 1x/week
Piano practice 15 min/day 5x/week
Piano Lessons 30 min, 1x/week
Music Appreciation 20 min 1x/week
(classics for kids, Music Masters)
Singing hymns or American songs 2x/week
Recorder? (9 note recorder Method)
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Yikes! This looks so much for 2nd grade. We just do the 3R's and lots of read alouds in all subject areas.
I guess if I put down on paper what we've done all year then it probably would add up to a lot more.
I used to do a lot more with my older ones when they were this age. I am concerned learning will become a drudgery for our little girl. Right now she is so eager to learn and never says no to anything I ask her to do pertaining to learning.
I do love the CM method of learning and the ideas found at Ambleside Online for this age!
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Thanks mariB,
It does look like it, doesn't it? It doesn't look like as much when I lay it out as a week, but it is about 3 hrs a day. It is basically the Mater Amabilis plans, though, with a different Science. I don't think I really added anything.
I do see everything besides the Rs as extra, but I want to expose him to the basic histories and geography skills as well as fine arts as well... its a difficult balance. And he is an eager, advanced reader, somewhere around 4th grade, as well as doing some basic multiplication and higher addition already, so we have a bit more time for moving along with other subjects.
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Topic: Planning for 2nd Grade
