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Liz D
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My 15yo ds likes punk rock music and would like to listen to it while doing his schoolwork. I've always told him no. The year I started hsing I went to Nache and heard Macbeth speak about music. In answer to someone's question, I think she discouraged listening to any type of rock music. That influenced me to only play classical music at home and in the car. BUT I have 3 older PS-educated children and this 15 yo who spent 6 yrs in PS ,so they were already hooked. Does any one else have a problem with this?
He is taking guitar lessons and would like to start drums. He also told me he would like to study punk music for school. Any good arguments why he shouldn't do this? He read "Surviving the Applewhites" and has been inspired that school should be more about studying what he's interested in. So far punk rock is what he has come up with for what to study.
I'm not sure if I should post this here or in unschooling or in the music forum(can't remember the exact title). Please feel free to move this where ever it would be most appropriate.
God Bless,
Liz- not a lover of punk rock
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Liz,
I'd highly recommend for you and your son a listening to Andrew Pudewa's _The Effects of Music on Life_.
There is a tape set and a CD set available through Institute for Excellence in Writing but I don't know if you can find the CD set online at that site. The paper catalog has it for sure, so be sure and request a catalog.
For the most tangible effect, have you son try the 'plant experiment'. It involves playing one kind of music for a living plant day in and day out for a certain time. Apparently, the plants exposed to Mozart flourish, while the plants exposed to rock (or hard rock) die pretty quickly.  It is explained with much more eloquence and scientific data on the CD. And there is considerably more information beyond the plant experiment on the topic as well. I think it is close to 90 minutes in length. It is thought provoking on many levels.
Here is a quote from the paper catalog:
"In what possibly may be the most interesting lecture you will ever hear, Andrew Pudewa highlights research regarding the profound neurological benefits of playing a musical instrument at a young age and the advantages of having the right kind of music in the child's environment. Dramatic evidence regarding potentially harmful music is introduced with both scientific data and spiritual insight. Includes numerous musical samples and commentary. You will never listen to music in quite the same way after hearing this presentation. From children to adults, everyone should get this timely and fascinating message."
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For your own edification (and "ammo"!) you should read Bloom's book, "The Closing of the American Mind" and specifically, the chapter on Music.
My father was a professional violinist. Consequently, my "unenlightened" parents never allowed hard rock of any kind growing up, and even lighter stuff had to be balanced by playing something classical afterwards. I thought they were real meanies, I tell you. But after reading the Bloom book, and listening to the Pudewa tape, too, I began to understand their point. And I thanked them for that draconian policy! I have the same policy with my kids (anyone for "The Kingston Trio"???) and they think *I* am the meanie  , so I guess what goes around, comes around. It can cause occasional friction, but hold tight.
Even though drums are good for learning rhythm and counting and all that, you might try and steer him toward some other instrument less associated with the punk stuff. Maybe encourage him to try something a little more challenging (appeal to that male ego!) like trumpet or trombone, or even saxophone if he thinks the other instruments are too uncool. My 15 yo ds takes violin, and complains vociferously,even though he's pretty good after all these years. However, I explain that it is simply part of his education, he can let his own children do nothing---or play the digerado, for pete's sake!---but this is part of his schooling, it is helping his brain, it is teaching him self-discipline, it is making him a better person (music calms the savage beast) and he WILL Thank Me One Day!!!
PS Despite trying to be cool, my 15yo still likes mouthing out the words of "Beethoven's Wig". We all get a big kick out of this cd, it's very funny, and provides an entertaining intro to classical music if your ds needs one.
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Thanks, Kelly and Amie,
Went to the library and found the Bloom book and will start it tonight. We have Beethoven's wig so I'll get that back out. we haven't listened to it in a while. I have the Iew Cd but hadn't listened to it. Ds and I started today while riding in the car. Thanks for the support!
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