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We are burned out with Seton. . . So I do have a good looking (at least on Amazon) book for writing (The Well Crafted Argument by Fred White) - effective writing of essays across disciplines. Just what we may need for the last year of high school. Since that is lots of writing - I want to read and discuss literature but maybe not requiring much actual essay writing with it. I am looking at Kolbe study guides but not the course plans, as well as some CHC and maybe Ignatius critical editions.
So, what do you all think - this writing book I found (haven't gotten it yet but it is over 900 pages) and a reading and discussing literature idea. Is it ok not to have tests and essays for the literature books we read?
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I am interested in responses to this as well. I am thinking of doing something similar for 9th grade english, plenty of writing using Format Writing to develop basic composition skills, but "just" reading and discussing literature.
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This is what we do, actually. Ds got so burned out with SAT essay prep in grade 11!
This year we are reading and discussing American Lit books, short stories and poetry. His writing is mainly for other subjects (history term papers, etc.) and for outside projects (Eagle Scout writeup, for example).
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I've been searching through the archives looking for answers on 'how' or 'what to use' for literature studies and wasn't finding a satisfactory answer, I was about to pose the question "What does your Literature Study look like?" when I found this question  This is what I want my lit study to look like with an occasional essay (maybe two every 10 weeks?)
Barb, Did you go ahead with this? Love to hear more.
Nancy, I'd LOVE to hear more about how you and ds do this?
How much time do you devote to this? Would I be correct in assuming you read the books to keep up to speed? What sort of prep/resources do you need? How does it flow? I have lots of questions. Just a mini essay will suffice  
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Well...he read the books (as did I, for the most part) and we talked about them. Sometimes my husband would join in the discussion. Since most of the books were familiar to me from previous literature studies, it wasn't too hard to discuss theme, symbolism, etc. (I have an activity book on literary terms that we used in 9th grade, so I did try to cover most of the topics in that activity book. We also did some poetry and talked a bit about meter, rhyme, etc. - not as much as I did in high school and college, but I know he's not going to major in English, so he probably won't ever need to know much more about meter than what a foot is.)
We also talked about his personal opinions and reactions to the books.
Did it work? I guess it did - he's pretty good at pondering literature. I think I should have had him write one or two short essays about literature last year, since he's having to do it in college English now, but that's about the only thing I'd change.
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What is holding me back is we haven't done any lit studies before. So am unsure about theme etc, I should be confident from my own schooling but for some reason I need a kickstart. Is there a book that you would recommend that covers lots of this? Or another resource?
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Erin,
Have you seen the IEW literature material?
IEW Litereture
We used parts of Windows to the World and really liked it. We haven't used any of the rest but they look interesting.
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Thank you  most intriguing, and not expensive, I can even get it in Australia. Okay off to write some emails to see if I can use it without the rec pre-requisites.
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I just saw this thread revived. I didn't go with the Well Crafted Argument book. I choose some literature (maybe 6-8) and progeny press guides. Ds reads (I do separately) and answers guide questions. Sometime he hands in and I grade, other times we grade together. Each book will have an essay assigned with it. We are approximately 7 -8 weeks into school year and are finishing our 2nd book. I have fallen behind other writing that I wanted to do this year. I wanted to assign essays in other subjects or current events. . . every 2 weeks. That hasn't happened so I will get back to that next week! I want to review the major types of essays as well as get into rhetoric or argumentive essays.
For writing I am not really using a book. I have some resources (Purdues OWL site for One, and another from Univ. of Chicago) Ds is a senior so I figure he just needs to write, not learn how!
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I've heard good things from my friend about Progeny Press. I confess Natalia's heads up on the IEW book has my finger hovering, just waiting to talk to our supplier.
Regards writing, thought you might find this post on expository writing from the Well Trained Mind inspiring.
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Thanks Erin, I will check it out. I do agree about the IEW book - haven't bought it myself - almost did - may buy it still . . .
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