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Posted: May 19 2009 at 2:37pm | IP Logged Quote Barb.b

We planned to use this and it just came today. It's so big! For those who used this, was it doable, did you finish it. How did your dc tackle this book - one chapter per week, or a certain number of pages assigned to read per week? Did you test, if so did you make your own or use the ones from the publisher. One last thing - did you as a parent try to read it too (I looked at this book and thought - no way, he is in 11th grade and can tackle this himself!)

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Posted: May 22 2009 at 1:35pm | IP Logged Quote Amanda

Not sure how helpful this will be, but since you haven't received any responses yet, I thought I'd jump in.

I haven't used this--my oldest is 11--but a much earlier edition was my high school US history textbook. I used it in 10th grade and in 12th grade (moved in between, and the two schools had different sequences). In ps, we didn't finish the book either time. (FWIW, I got a good score on my history achievement test after the first year, and earned college credit for my AP score after the second time, but I had wonderful teachers for both.)

If you don't want to read the whole thing (and I can't blame you), could you have discussions with him about different events/periods without reading it? I have a feeling that is what I would do. I don't know what your goals are for your son with this book, but I do know that my high school history courses emphasized discussion/argument, and that would be missing if you just sent him off on his own without a community of learners.

I apologize if I'm off-base and have been completely useless!

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Amanda, Thanks, you are not off base at all! I actually may try to read most of the text this summer (thats my plan right now anyway!). Also, he isn't interested in taking the AP exam so we don't have to have it finished in May for that. For now I think I will have him start mid August and finish in June. This is about 30 pages per week, maybe more so he has some study days built in.

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Barb, this is the way we have done it for 3 kids and will next year for #4. We listen as a family at lunch to some of the Teaching Company US history CDs (as much as the younger ones will tolerate They are the #1 Teaching Company tapes in our house that most of my kids won't complain about listening to.

Then I break the book into American History 1 and 2 (before Reconstruction and then after). They start in August and by end of January, the student is ready to take American History 1 CLEP. I have objections about some of the material after Reconstruction, so I pick and choose topics and chapters after that...and plan to finish by May. They don't get the FULL AP/CLEP for American history II, but I only need 1 CLEP for this subject. I have them reading about WW1,WW2, Spanish American War, political bios, saint's lives, etc. during this time period. My second son wanted to take the American History CLEP 2 a year later (for some reason, I don't really know), but he read some of the chapters that we didn't cover and CLEPed. The material isn't horrible (transcendalism, birth control movement, the 60's, etc.), but we do US History freshmen year, so I am not ready to cover all that "stuff" then.
It is a heavy reading load, but the text is not difficult reading. Let them enjoy the moment and DON'T stress about the test or the study guide. When they have finished the reading and working on the study guide, buy or intralibrary loan the CLEP guide to US history and have them work on that for 2 weeks....hard.
Then they will be more than prepared to take the CLEP.
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Stephanie,

It just so happens I just ordered (on sale!) the History of the US dvd's from teaching company! I actually love history so I started reading the text this week and am already past page 100. I think I will have ds take the 1st US history test sometime mid year. It all goes well and he wants to he can take the next in spring. But if he doesn't at least we have one US history clep to put on his transcript. I doubt he will take the 2nd clep as he will probably take the SAT physics test again in spring (he is taking Apologia's advanced physics this year, took saxon physics as physics 1 this year). He may want to raise his score in SAT physics. So who needs SAT phsyics, SAT I (Maybe - depends on this Junes scores) and ACT - as well as yet another clep US history. Thanks for the advice! Getting the clep guide to US history will also be a must!

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I used this text as a high school junior in the 1980's.....no, we never finished it




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