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Posted: May 24 2008 at 9:10am | IP Logged Quote Maryan

Next year I'll have a Kindergartener and a 2nd grader doing Right Start Math. We've done RS A & B and are moving onto C (and beginning again with A).

I really like RS's concepts of visualizing 5's and the tricks she teaches to add using 5's. I like everything about her method.

I would assume in an effort to make her curriculum affordable, many of the manipulatives are paper or plastic. Since I plan to use this curriculum many times over... I was wondering if anyone has made any Montessori manipulatives Right Start friendly (aka blue and yellow, etc.) and would share ideas, pictures, blog posts, etc.

I was reading this thread for ideas but was looking for some more.

I've been thinking of painting my LARGE wooden IKEA abacus blue and yellow for one of the younger boys... but that might not happen. It is 100 beads to paint.

Has anybody combined these?

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Posted: May 29 2008 at 9:06pm | IP Logged Quote Katie

I have combined up to a point. I did use the abacus tiles as it was important for dd in transitioning from the actual abacus to the more abstract thinking. But I ditched the RS number tiles for my heftier and nicer Montessori tiles. Once she was comfortable, we also used the golden bead material, too. I also throw in Montessori when I think it will be beneficial - for example using the teens and tens boards when appropriate, fractions skittles etc.

I could certainly see the benefit of making some blue/yellow bead material, but I never got that far. Even though I'm not using RS this year, I still use a lot of the methods, especially the fives recognition, and we use the abacus all the time.

Not much help, but I think you're onto something!

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Posted: May 29 2008 at 9:22pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

Oh dear, Maryan I asked the same question over here.
I knew it belonged in Living and Loving Numbers, but I posted over there because that's where all those great Montessori people hang - and I was looking for their input.

Great minds think alike???

Anyhoo...just thought I'd put it here in case you didn't know about the parallel conversation there. Donna Marie and Andrea had some really helpful things to say.

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Posted: May 29 2008 at 9:31pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Mackfam wrote:
Oh dear, Maryan I asked the same question over here.
I knew it belonged in Living and Loving Numbers, but I posted over there because that's where all those great Montessori people hang - and I was looking for their input.

Great minds think alike???

Anyhoo...just thought I'd put it here in case you didn't know about the parallel conversation there. Donna Marie and Andrea had some really helpful things to say.


Jennifer, I'm about to move that conversation over here, too, because it does belong in the Math forum. It's a great thread, and it really helped me sort out my decisions.

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Posted: May 30 2008 at 10:47am | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Katie wrote:
I have combined up to a point. I did use the abacus tiles as it was important for dd in transitioning from the actual abacus to the more abstract thinking. But I ditched the RS number tiles for my heftier and nicer Montessori tiles. Once she was comfortable, we also used the golden bead material, too. I also throw in Montessori when I think it will be beneficial - for example using the teens and tens boards when appropriate, fractions skittles etc.

I could certainly see the benefit of making some blue/yellow bead material, but I never got that far. Even though I'm not using RS this year, I still use a lot of the methods, especially the fives recognition, and we use the abacus all the time.

Not much help, but I think you're onto something!


Katie this is so helpful, because I did wonder which special montessori materials would be compatible.

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Posted: May 30 2008 at 2:22pm | IP Logged Quote AndreaG

Well after I made all by colored bead bars- I discovered Right Start and wished I'd made them blue and yellow! Oh well, they still work fine.
I also use the Golden Beads (well actually we use base 10 blocks) as a substitute for some of the cardboard material. It might be nice if those were blue and yellow too! But really I don't have time to make custom Montessori/Right Start materials, and I don't think it is too confusing for the kids to just use the regular Montessori stuff along with RightStart.
Actually alot of the RightStart stuff is just smaller and flimsier copies of Montessori- for example the cards that go along with the Golden Bead material (showing 1, 10, 100s, and 1000s) would be nicer to use in place of the smaller RightStart version.
One easy thing I do with my preschoolers to get them ready for RightStart is to do the cards and counter activity with counters that are blue and yellow, thus emphasizing the groups of 5.
I hope this makes sense!

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Posted: July 03 2008 at 2:27pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

I'm bumping this up. I read this old thread that Maryan posted above was extremely helpful.

But it leads me to two other questions:

1) The questionaire rates my son as Level B. He'll be 5 in a few months, and has some grasp of math concepts already. I was thinking of starting at Level A to be safe, but Andrea said in the thread above that Level A is presented in the first half of Level B.

For a Kindergartener, is that too much to do B? Too fast paced? I have a pretty eager learner, but...

2) After RightStart, what then? If not Saxon, then what?

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Posted: July 03 2008 at 4:10pm | IP Logged Quote Marcia

go with B and just go slow. (my opinion of course!) I have never done A with my kids...just wait until age 5 to start B.
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 12:16pm | IP Logged Quote Maryan

BTW - so far in my attempts to make some more attractive Right Start manipulatives, I purchased ten wooden hundred squares from Montessori Outlet (I was purchasing something else, so went ahead and ordered these too). They came with brown dots on them. I took paint markers and colored them in blue and yellow. So far that's all I've done.

In answer to you, Jenn - I don't think it matters whether you do A or B because your oldest is quite clever.

I'm going to do RS A with Bobby just to take math slowly... plus when I do RS A the younger boys can do some of the activities as well. B activities aren't quite as conducive to that. If you get to activities in B that are over Gregory's head or frustrate him, you can just fortify with her math games until he's ready to keep going!

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Posted: July 04 2008 at 2:42pm | IP Logged Quote JuliaT

I have always done A but you can definitely start with B, you just have to go slower when it is required. There is an awful lot of info in B. When you see that your ds is getting overwhelmed, just park right there. I take that parking time to do games and take more of a living math approach.

It's just really important that you take your time through B.

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