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Posted: June 14 2013 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote ElizLeone

Hello, Ladies,

I am trying to help my daughter plan her upcoming senior year. She needs very little to graduate at this point. In fact, by state standards, she needs only U.S. History to graduate. (By our family standards, she needs a bit more. ;) Having said that, she does not want a heavy senior year, as she will be working and busy with college applications, etc.

So here is my conundrum: She currently has three years of English and three years of Literature on her transcript. She does not know yet where she wants to attend college, but most colleges and universities seem to require three years of English, but strongly recommend four years of English. Due to my daughter's desire to keep the load a little lighter this year, we are thinking we would do either, but not both English or Literature her senior year. But my questions are these:

  • Is this advisable (English only, no Lit senior year) for a college-prep transcript?

  • Does Literature qualify as "English" for colleges who are looking for that fourth year of "English," or does four years of recommended English really mean English, not Literature?

  • If Literature can satisfy that fourth English requirement/recommendation that many colleges seem to seek, should I list it as, say, English IV: American & British Literature, for example, or is that just dumb (as in, trying too hard to get the word "English" in there when it's really a Literature credit)? Should it just be listed as English IV and let it go at that? (Her other English courses are listed as English I, English II, and English III, while her Literature courses are listed more descriptively: World Literature, Ancient Literature, Medieval Literature.


  • Thanks in advance for any help you can provide on this!

    Elizabeth



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Posted: June 14 2013 at 5:55pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

Great to see you, Elizabeth    I only have a minute but my daughter did a similar thing and I believe we did call an English IV some type of Lit class. Many high schools combine English and Lit anyway.

Hopefully others will jump in to answer as well. Hope your daughter enjoys her senior year & how awesome that she is ahead of the game!

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Posted: June 14 2013 at 8:12pm | IP Logged Quote MichelleW

When I was still teaching, senior year was a literature year. Some essays included, but all related to literature.

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Posted: June 14 2013 at 8:41pm | IP Logged Quote SallyT

I'd just go with calling her courses English I-IV -- "English" typically covers literature, composition, and grammar in some combination every year, but of course how you do that (writing one big literature paper, say, during the course of which you deal with grammar issues) is up to you.

When I was teaching, I always taught a LOT of literature (in 10th and 11th grades), and was bewildered at first by students who demanded to know when we were going to do "English." Um, Shakespeare IS English? And then I realized that by "English" they meant grammar worksheets.

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Posted: June 15 2013 at 9:07am | IP Logged Quote ElizLeone

Such helpful information, Ladies!

Yes, I certainly remember English classes comprised of composition, grammar and literature when I was in high school—no stand-alone Literature class.

We've been mostly following a Kolbe model where we're doing English along the lines of grammar/vocab/composition/rhetoric each year plus a separate Literature course. I guess after three high school years under our belts I got into that English + Literature mindset where they are two different classes. Thanks for the insights on being able to consider any of the above English. A heavier emphasis on Literature senior year is appealing and makes sense.

Many thanks, everyone!

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