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Posted: Oct 25 2010 at 8:14am | IP Logged Quote seven2hold

Has anyone read this book by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt?

I picked it up last week. It has me very concerned about the quality of educational materials. I am interested in seeing curricula as it was in the late 1800's before the dumbing down began.

Can anyone recommend a site on early curricula?

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Posted: Oct 25 2010 at 12:02pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Well, Charlotte Mason's books might be a good place to start. But wasn't early curricula really just good books written by experts in their field? You really need to read A Thomas Jefferson Education! Also, Weapons of Mass Instruction will get you fired up.

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Posted: Oct 25 2010 at 3:03pm | IP Logged Quote Erin

seven2hold wrote:
I am interested in seeing curricula as it was in the late 1800's before the dumbing down began.


Don Potter's site has many readers and spellers from this time period and around.

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Posted: Oct 25 2010 at 4:43pm | IP Logged Quote vmalott

An Old Fashioned Education

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Posted: Oct 25 2010 at 10:12pm | IP Logged Quote mamalove

OLVS uses many older reprints that fit this description.
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Can I just say that the Dan Potter site has me worried. My 2 oldest are currently in public school. They are being sent home with site word lists. I hate it. My 7 year old,John, is way behind in reading. I have been doing more phonics at home with my 5 year old,Patrick, than I did with John. Patrick is already able to read almost as well as John. I don't like public school but I really don't know if I have what it takes to homeschool. I've been thinking about homeschooling for awhile now. I just don't know if I could handle it. My 3 youngest are 3,3 and 2 years old. I can barley keep up with the house and the little ones now. I don't know how I would fit schooling in. God has surely Blessed all of you that can manage it.
Sorry for venting all this here. I'm just a worried moma.
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Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 6:24am | IP Logged Quote vmalott

Grateful,
Here is what I tell folks who ask me how I am able to homeschool with 6 of my 7 children (my oldest son is in 8th grade at public school) and don't think they have what it takes to do the same with their kids:

If you help your kids with their homework, then you have what it takes to homeschool (you care). Homeschooling just cuts out the "middle man" (the school) in that whole routine, so it is much more efficient. This dawned on me when my oldest dd was in 1st grade and we were spending ALL THIS TIME on math homework. My questions to myself was, "Isn't the SCHOOL supposed to be teaching her this stuff??? Why am I teaching it AGAIN at home??? Isn't there a better way???"

Still, if you don't think you feel called to take on all your child's education yourself, then the next best thing is to supplement his learning at home. He's not getting enough phonics at school? Work on it at home! Further on down the road, when he's reading independently and the lit. choices in school are iffy, at best, suggest some quality books for him to read in his spare time.

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Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 6:59am | IP Logged Quote guitarnan

Grateful, I understand all too well how worried you are about your children. I agree with Valerie - if homeschooling isn't for you right now, that's more than fine - you and your husband must decide what is best for your family. Caring parents at home really do help children learn more at school, and parents who read aloud to and with their children give them a huge boost that lasts a lifetime. So...if you're reviewing homework and reading with your children, they are already benefitting.

I think that most parents worry a lot about doing their best for their children, and sometimes it's hard to step back and say, "Hey, I'm doing something good for them!" But we need to do this. We need to feel confident that we're trusting in God's plan for our families and working to teach our children the Faith and how to live it in their daily lives.

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Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote Lori

Valerie,

that was EXACTLY my position on homeschooling my little ones, and the answer I gave to everyone who asked me how I could spend so much time doing homeschooling and still have time for other things (mostly the "Now that the kids are in school, it's all about you" crowd).

I love having afternoons free of homework, because quite frankly, I am exhausted by then...whether it's housework, or errands, or whatever...and then to have to teach/do homework WITH the kids when they come home from school??? No thank you!

When a couple of mine were in public school for a year, I wrote to the teachers about the homework packets that were coming home, telling them "We are sure to read every day with XXXXX, and practice math facts out loud, but as for the homework...we just don't have time for that with our busy family life. I am SURE that in the SIX AND A HALF HOURS you have my child each day that they get enough exposure to the concepts and topics you are teaching, so please understand that we may not turn in EVERY SINGLE PAGE, every week." Never heard a peep from them about it.

As much as we cover with homeschooling (3 kids, all different ages and stages), I am able to combine much of it, and I never feel as rushed or overwhelmed as I did when I had to hurry kiddos out the door, make lunches, do hours of homework, etc. Grateful, if you and your husband are interested in homeschooling, you CAN do it...you're eminently qualified because you know your children best!

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Posted: Oct 27 2010 at 1:18pm | IP Logged Quote Grateful in VA

vmalott wrote:

My questions to myself was, "Isn't the SCHOOL supposed to be teaching her this stuff??? Why am I teaching it AGAIN at home??? Isn't there a better way???"

I have that conversation with myself on a daily basis. I think I will have him evaluated for a learning disability so we can better decide what to do to help him succeed.
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Posted: Oct 27 2010 at 1:23pm | IP Logged Quote Grateful in VA

guitarnan wrote:
   So...if you're reviewing homework and reading with your children, they are already benefitting.

"Hey, I'm doing something good for them!" But we need to do this. We need to feel confident that we're trusting in God's plan for our families and working to teach our children the Faith and how to live it in their daily lives.


Thank you for the encouragement.

I just spent the last half hour trying to figure out how to quote 2 sources for one reply.
I obviously did not succeed.
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Posted: Oct 29 2010 at 6:12pm | IP Logged Quote seven2hold

Thank you all for your help. I have done quite a bit of research. The web sites Erin and Valerie posted were very insightful. Thank you!

I am praying about what to do with all of this information.



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