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I'd like to create a Latin course for my high schooler...I'm not looking for something extremely difficult that could be called Latin I. I'm wanting a course I can call, "Introduction to Latin." I would like her to know the basics and I would also like her to know the Latin responses in mass like the Agnes Dei, etc, along with a few basic prayers in Latin.
I was thinking that maybe Latina Christiana 1 and 2 together might fit the bill, along with maybe a resource for the Latin responses that are not already included in the program (suggestions, please?). I like that there is a DVD available.
The thing is, I want something that an early high schooler could do mostly on her own. I was hoping that since many young children do this with their parent's help, this could be more independently done with an older child? If you've used this program, do you think that this would work?
The other program I've considered is Rosetta Stone, along with a latin responses addition. I already have RS Spanish and we love its format and how a child can work independently. But I don't know if RS is Church Latin or Classical Latin, or how difficult it is.
I'd be grateful for your thoughts and suggestions. And if you think there is something else that would work better, please share. Thanks so much!
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If I were you I would do Getting Started With Latin. There is great support for it, it is made to work independently, it is very cheap (just need the book and website!), and it has bite sized lessons so as not to be overwhelming.
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Oh, and he also has MP3 recordings on his site!
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MODG recommends a program for first time Latin-ers called Our Roman Roots. I don't know anything about it personally, but I've heard it's enjoyable to use. Might be worth checking out. I don't know if it's Christian though, so it may not have the church responses you are looking for like Latina Christiana does.
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Rosetta Stone uses the classical pronunciation, Books. That would most likely not be what you would want if you want her to learn the prayers of the church. What about Henle? My dd, 14, is doing it now and she really likes it (but she has done LC I and II).
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yes, this. i knew Latin responses for Church growing up, and when i took latin in college it was hard to switch over in my head to classical (but i did and took it all the way thru - cuz i loved it....)
however, if there is a chance she is going to love latin and want to take it in college, most colleges that i know of do use classical. (hhhmmmm....do Catholic colleges? now i am not sure...)
if you got the DVDs of LC1&2, couldn't that be done independently?
my dd really liked PowerGlide, too.
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I REALLY REALLY REALLY like "The Latin Road to English Grammar." I've used Latina Christiana, Our Roman Roots, Latin is Fun,and Ecce Romani and LRTEG is the best. I really like that a student can do it with minimal help from Mom. I like that it spreads 2 years of high school level Latin into 3 years so you can start it a little earlier. I like the teaching DVDs and the concept of keeping a notebook. Did I mention I like just checking the tests every 2 weeks? Woo hoo! And not a lot of boring translations of Caesar's Gallic Wars. Students translate scripture, history, "The Star Spangled Banner," etc.
I'd like to take a look at "Biblia Sacra" (out of print) and Lingua Biblica:
http://rainbowresource.com/wldetail.php?sid=1252431575-14549 76&id=032733
Maybe those are more Bible-focused for you?
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Hmmmmmmmmm...lots of options here. I am going to look up the programs y'all have mentioned. I'll be back, I'm sure with questions! 
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cactus mouse wrote:
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yes, this. i knew Latin responses for Church growing up, and when i took latin in college it was hard to switch over in my head to classical (but i did and took it all the way thru - cuz i loved it....)
however, if there is a chance she is going to love latin and want to take it in college, most colleges that i know of do use classical. (hhhmmmm....do Catholic colleges? now i am not sure...)
if you got the DVDs of LC1&2, couldn't that be done independently?
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I'm not too concerned about her studying Latin in college and the switch over. I'm more looking at this as a gentle introduction, mostly because Latin is still the language of the Church in many ways.
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OK, this is going to be harder than I thought. Every program sounds "easy to use" etc, but I'm not so sure. I tried to use LC 1 with a 4th grader once and it didn't go so well.  I've been kind of gun shy with Latin ever since.
Macmom, the Latin Road to English Grammar sounds really good, plus I could drop my grammar program completely. I'm also looking for something that we can use over a several year period (8th-10th), so I like that it fits that model. But the web site and the Sonlight review both make it sound like Mom needs to be very involved. Is this because people use this with younger children, or is your child accomplished at Latin already, having used other programs before? I suppose if we didn't get through all three levels it wouldn't be the end of the world, especially since it wasn't my goal to give her two years of Latin to begin with.
I like that Our Roman Roots sounds gentle and that it incorporates our faith, as well. But it doesn't sound very interactive (dvd, cdrom, etc), which I think helps a lot with language study.
I really like that Getting Started with Latin uses a mastery based model and only covers one topic at a time. This sounds doable.
Sigh...I really believe this particular child has a strong vocation to marriage/motherhood. My desire to give her some grounding in Latin is because of the Church, but also because I think studying Latin is something that will only grow in the homeschool world. I'm trying to imagine her attempting to teach Latin in her own homeschool one day, thinking, "My mom never made me do this..."  Is that weird???
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Latina Christiana will teach several prayers and sayings of church leaders. In addition to the dvds, you would want the teacher's manual (even if the student reads it on her own) b/c it does include explanations not in the student text.
Getting Started with Latin is a good, cheap intro but is not going to help with the church stuff.
Kolbe Academy sells the New Missal Latin Set specifically to understand the prayers of the liturgy; $55 gets everything for 4 years of study, w/audio cd but no dvds. I have no idea how student friendly it is, but perhaps you could find a review?
Another alternative is to pick any Latin course, and add in a Latin/English missal for informal study.
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Have you checked into Memoria Press newest latin program for 5th grade on up, First Form Latin? I ordered it to use with my 8th and 10th grade dds. I am hoping to do it all this year but might take 2 years with it. The DVDs for the program are suppose to be out soon.
They just mailed the books out last week so mine should be here in the next day or two. I am keeping my fingers crossed that is something the 2 of them can do together with just a little help from me. 
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No, I'll pull out my latest Memoria Press catalogue and take a look. Let me know what you think when you get it, k?
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I have a dumb question. I was thinking about maybe using LC I and then II (or First Form) and maybe Lingua Angelica 1 in between or after the second one? Here's the list of what appears on Lingua Angelica 1:
Gaudeamus Igitur
Dona Nobis Pacem
Christus Vincit
Veni Creator Spiritus
Adeste Fideles
Veni Veni Emmanuel
Resonet in Laudibus
Stabat Mater
Ubi Caritas
Pange Lingua
Tantum Ergo
Panis Angelicus
Ave Verum Corpus
Adoro te Devote
Ave Maria
Salve, Mater Misericordiae
Salve Regina
Kyrie
Gloria
Sanctus
Agnus Dei
Dies Irae
Requiem Aeternam
In Paradisum
Prayers
The Sign of the Cross
Goria Patri
The Table Blessing
The Pater Noster
Can I assume that most of these are Catholic? I don't think as a convert that I would know the difference. Also, is there more than one tune for the Mass responses like the Agnes Dei, or can I assume that this one is probably the same one we hear at Mass?
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Yes. They're all Catholic and beautifully done! In the back of the Song Book there is a wonderful bit of music history about each of the selections. It's very interesting.
There is only one song that is secular in the collection - Gaudeamus Igitur.
I'm not a liturgical music expert so I'd ask JennGM about the chant from the Ordinary of the Mass in the Agnus Dei. I believe there are variations accorded for chant within the Church - for different Masses.
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This is very timely for me. My boys are 8th and 9th grade. We just started Henle I after doing Latina Christiana I and II and I don't like it at all. I feel totally lost! I'll be watching this with interest.
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So, when do you start Lingua Angelica? Should we go through both LC 1 and 2 first?
Lisa, what do you think about LC 1 and 2 for a child 8th and 9th grade, as a mostly independent study? I want something like Getting Started With Latin is described as(small, bite sized pieces, easy to understand) but with a dvd format.
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We are also slogging through Henle. The kids get it but each exercise takes SOOOOOOOOOOOOO long and as much as I know they like Latin, there are other things needing to be done!
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You can use it along with LC 1 & 2. I believe in lesson plans it refers to when to use it. I know the First form includes using Lingua Angelica in its lesson plans. I just rec'd First Form and it will take my direction to use with the kids but I think I am going to like it better than LC 1 & 2.
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Sorry it took so long to get back to you, Books. We still aren't feeling great here. 
When our boys did LC 1 and 2, I honestly couldn't have done it without the DVD's. They watched the lesson and did the workbook pages independently. I gave the tests and quizzes. It was very easy for me and I think the boys learned a lot. It is helping them with Henle 1 having done LC 1 and 2 and Prima Latina.
I decided to keep trudging along with Henle and am using the lesson plans from Memoria Press. They are so much easier for me to understand and implement than Laura Berquist's plans from MODG. Memoria's plans go much, much slower. For us it's a better fit. I'd rather they go slower and really understand it than just get the books done.
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Lisa R wrote:
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, Books. We still aren't feeling great here.
When our boys did LC 1 and 2, I honestly couldn't have done it without the DVD's. They watched the lesson and did the workbook pages independently. I gave the tests and quizzes. It was very easy for me and I think the boys learned a lot. It is helping them with Henle 1 having done LC 1 and 2 and Prima Latina.
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How old were your boys when they did this, and did they have any latin background before? Someone told me that halfway through LC I they started to have problems with the text assuming knowledge that wasn't taught. I would really prefer a dvd format. Dd loves MUS and I think will do well with this format, and I remember the weekly lessons being small and manageable the first time we attempted it (no dvds available...we never made it past lesson 3, I think).
I'm sorry you aren't feeling well, Lisa. We have a nasty virus in the house here as well. Feels like mono, but doesn't last as long.
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