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Posted: May 07 2012 at 4:41pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

AmandaV wrote:
So it looks like, as you've noted before, you do general history/stories/etc. for K-1st grade, basic American history for 2nd-3rd,

Yes. This. And even though it isn't listed as part of history (it probably should be!), we continue to read through the Old Testament stories in 2nd and 3rd grade, building an understanding of Salvation History through stories. In this way, I've always considered us as studying history chronologically.

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and then begin your rotation of World History in 4th, continuing twice through 11th grade, with a "modern" history year in 12th? And then you hit American as you go through various Holiday's and anniversary's?

Yes. That's what we typically do. And again, sometimes where we begin and end a year's study fluctuates, but it all seems to even out in the end.

Glad it was a help, Amanda!!

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Posted: May 08 2012 at 7:47am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Thank you SO much, Jen. That is very helpful.

I like the little yellow exes conceptually as well. It helps me envision how to study two tracks at once, one secondary to the other.

For instance, next year for third grade, I am envisioning our focus in American History, but ds is also interested in Ancient Egypt. I don't happen to think that Egypt is quite as important for study as the ancient cultures that are more firmly linked to western civilization, like Rome or Greece, so 3rd grade seems a good crossover time to me to study it when they are fascinated by it and then are a bit older when they would more seriously hit Greece and Rome, though some knowledge is essential for cultural context.

Anyway, rambling, but it's nice to have a way to differentiate mentally.


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Posted: May 11 2012 at 7:14am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Mackfam wrote:
And, I like the Kathryn Stout science scope and sequence checklists, too! She has several other guides on math and language arts, and though I don't have any of the others right now, I wondered if a few of these might fit some of your needs in having a basic scope and sequence, Lindsay.


At present, I've been looking to Nebel's Building Foundations... flow chart and using it as a sort of checklist for topics I think we've covered. I'm also considering buying the next volume as my oldest enters 3rd grade (though, I'm still using the first volume in 3rd grade because, with so much of the plans being "living," I don't find them confining in terms of grade level).

As someone with a strong science background, do you think that following his guide loosely (I use it primarily as a guide for organizing living resources, and as I said, a checklist) is sufficient for elementary? Or would I still benefit from what I presume is a much more detailed checklist for covering the scope and sequence of elementary science?

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Posted: May 11 2012 at 7:44am | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

I think the Nebel book is a perfectly wonderful resource for using in that way. I began using it just like that, and then found that I preferred the simpler checklist-only approach of the Stout Scope and Sequence checklists especially since I had older kids.

Once you get beyond the Nebel books for providing a guide, you might consider finding a used copy of the Stout book, or see if it's in your library system just so you can get an idea for the book. It helps give me some guidance in seeing overall coverage of science topics for various ages, and I especially appreciate that it's a comprehensive book which covers K-12.

And, if you are likely to step off of Nebel's path for science coverage, the Stout book might be helpful just to have a place to:

1) reference what a student of (enter specific grade-range here) should be learning about (enter specific science topic here) and

2) to have one place (in a simple checklist format) that you can check off science topics as they are covered just so you can keep up.

This was very helpful for me since we are often formally studying one science topic/book, and then informally (but still deeply) studying something else as a result of observation, nature walk, timely opportunity, etc. It was a way to coordinate and keep good records for me.

Do check to see if your library has a copy you could borrow, Lindsay. I think it would be most helpful for you to look at it, and then you might be able to see at a glance that your current method is working fine for now, and this tool really won't add anything of substantial value to it....or that it could be worthwhile to begin looking for a very inexpensive copy (and those aren't hard to find).

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Posted: May 11 2012 at 8:17am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Thanks, Jen.

Wow, the cost difference between a used copy on Amazon and a new one at the official site is significant! $23 new versus about $8 for a used one with no markings!

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Posted: May 11 2012 at 9:33am | IP Logged Quote Martha

I have something similiar to Jen's spreadsheet.

Instead of 'X' I actually list the core materials I plan to use. Usually there are 2-3 lines.

For example, math is basic

MCP for k to 6th, lials BCM, lials intro alg, Jacob geometry with a note to supplement with life of Fred and Key to.

For history is might be more of a spine, with note to extensive booklist.

I have a copy somewhere.... I adjust it every year. Add something new that I don't want to forget to use when a younger sibling rises in the ranks. Remove something that isn't around any longer. Make a note of an alternative that worked for the kid that needed something very different. (such as Math Mammoth for my 7th born)

Once they get past 9th grade it's all much more murky and individualized. (not that it isn't prior, just that it is much more so)

Other than math, what they study is very much dependent on their interests and opportunities at the time.

I have one son who is anxiously awaiting a letter informing him of being wait listed for a machinist program that will be the majority of his education for junior and senior year.

I have another who is set to be a pilot and his courses are all geared towards either completing credits towards his pilot degree or working to save money for flight time (it's $175 and hour! :faint:

And yet another who so far His major interests are geology and weapon design. LOL

The younger grades are rather easy at this point. I know what core materials I like for maths and beginning reading/writing skills. Anything beyond that is very relaxed FIAR style.

I have decided I wish I had enforced far more memory work with my olders, so my youngers are having to suffer learning from older guinea pigs trials. ;p

One thing I want to add to my scope and sequence is major things I want memorized. I would also like to start a Book of Centuries. For some reason it's always overwhelmed me and I'd like to get over that.


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