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Religion: 4 years
MODG Chief Truths of the Faith and Christian Morality
MODG Mass and the Sacraments and Apologetics
Scott Hahn Scripture studies (Gospel of John, epistles, Catholic letters, Revelation)
Math: 3 years (or Trig or Calc or Physics)
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Patty Paper Geometry
Life of Fred
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MODG Natural History
MODG Earth Science
Astronomy (Signs and Seasons)
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Latin II (if you finish The Latin Road to English Grammar)
Latin Lingua Biblica
Spanish
Language Arts: (4 years)
RCA Humanities I (composition and Literature portion)
Vocabulary from Classical Roots (books A- E)
RCA Humanities II (composition and Literature portion)
RCA Humanities III (composition and Literature portion)
Omnibus III (composition and literature portion)
History and Government: (4 years)
RCA Humanities I (history portion)
RCA Humanities II (history portion)
RCA Humanities III (history portion)
MODG US Government using Declaration Statesmenship
Christ and the Americas and workbook
Christ the King, Lord of History and workbook
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Art
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Logic I w/ Martin Cothran
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Grammar of Poetry
Shakespeare
MODG Health
Russian History
Medieval English and Spanish Literature
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I'd love, love, love to have the funds for Didache. Maybe that will happen.
The Saxon math makes me want to run screaming asap out of the room.
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1. Ditto on Saxon - we are switching to TT Geometry for Grade 10
2. We are considering a switch to Didache (or Kolbe)
3. Happy Birthday to your ds 
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*bump*
Mostly for a good laugh about what I thought entering my first year of high school and what I think now that I'm near graduating 2 and on my fourth high schooler. 
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Martha wrote:
*bump*
Mostly for a good laugh about what I thought entering my first year of high school and what I think now that I'm near graduating 2 and on my fourth high schooler. |
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Oh my - this thread seems to be from so long ago! My first is about to graduate high school in 2 weeks. It is quite funny to look back - especially for the first high schooler - so many questions and a little fear of the unknown and untrodden.
Our 4 year plan was actually quite similar to the one I posted. This child did not do a lot of "alternative credits" - very academic and knew from the beginning that her dream was a Catholic Liberal Arts school - and a very particular one.
Now I have my next 2 high schoolers coming up - in some ways it is a little easier, but in other ways not. Each child is so different and the high school plan does not look the same as the first.
Also families change, mamas get tired - and plans for each child have to fit the season of life that we are all in.
I still think it is a good idea to have a good 4 year plan - even if life or other makes you deviate from the route on occasion....
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Plans that went awry..
Ds was never gonna get into UofD. Which is a crying shame, but for the best because it wouodnt be a good fit for him. He is still struggling with math. And I was likely in denial about him having my dyscalcula. (Why the blessed saints can't my kids ever inherit my good qualities? Like organization or an aversion to being late to events?) Seton enrollment for 9th grade was epic failure type of awful. We ended up switching to TT, which *I* hate, but it works for him. We did dual enroll enroll at both colleges and a trade school. We did do some CLEPs and APs, but not as many with my first and second bc first son gets test anxitity. Still between all of that, he will have 36 college credits at high school graduation. Maybe 3-6 more pending how heavy a load he thinks he can handle. He has found a career field he likes, machining, and plans to go to a state uni. I don't foresee a problem with him going either. Other than cost, which he will have to work and live at home to make happen. That's just the reality we live with.
I had absolutely no idea in 2010 where we would end up in 2013/14. Learned a lot. Ate considerable crow. Mostly okay though. It's been a rough ride, but that's helped to shake off all the stuff we didn't need and focus on what we did.
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I do still have a four year plan! It always help to have a map of where you are going, even if you choose midway to take a different route, yes?
And yes, those plans vary some because you're right, every child is going to be different.
Oddly enough, second son will likely be going to the same university, because it just happens they offer what he wants, but his transcript will look completely different and his career choice will be roughly 3x the cost. (professional pilot)
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Martha wrote:
Plans that went awry..
Ds was never gonna get into UofD. Which is a crying shame, but for the best because it wouodnt be a good fit for him. He is still struggling with math. And I was likely in denial about him having my dyscalcula. (Why the blessed saints can't my kids ever inherit my good qualities? Like organization or an aversion to being late to events?) Seton enrollment for 9th grade was epic failure type of awful. We ended up switching to TT, which *I* hate, but it works for him. We did dual enroll enroll at both colleges and a trade school. We did do some CLEPs and APs, but not as many with my first and second bc first son gets test anxitity. Still between all of that, he will have 36 college credits at high school graduation. Maybe 3-6 more pending how heavy a load he thinks he can handle. He has found a career field he likes, machining, and plans to go to a state uni. I don't foresee a problem with him going either. Other than cost, which he will have to work and live at home to make happen. That's just the reality we live with.
I had absolutely no idea in 2010 where we would end up in 2013/14. Learned a lot. Ate considerable crow. Mostly okay though. It's been a rough ride, but that's helped to shake off all the stuff we didn't need and focus on what we did. |
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Martha - the whole college thing has been a roller coaster for us too. An eye opener. And lots of experience for the rest of the children. As for costs - take it day by day, week by week, semester by semester - very hard for someone like me who likes to plan well ahead.
Another thing I have had to learn is not to worry the future for all the children - just to take one at a time (or 2 in the case of the twins!!)
Lots of wisdom gained...and a lot more to gain ....could write a book on the last couple of years!
I am reluctant to start a similar thread for the twins who are rising 9th Graders - just sitting quietly and praying for guidance (and hoping for a thunderbolt..)
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My 2nd is taking the SAT this morning. He likely will do well enough to get him where he is going. He won't score like his older sister did, but she needed her higher scores to get where she was going  .
Personally, my biggest character formation has been in the area of increasing my finesse in dancing this dance. The biggest part is to get out of the way and let each student dance with God. Hey, I liked that!
It's bittersweet. On one hand, I want to be needed but realize I need to shrink so that they can grow. On the other hand, it is a relief to truly see that I can only be responsible for myself and my efforts to influence my young adults. I can lead the horses to water...but I cannot make them study for the SAT  .
Mostly, I'm grateful to have had them home for the high school years for selfish reasons. I sooooooo enjoy their company (most of the time ). Young adults fill a house with energy like no other! They keep me young, motivated, and laughing.
So while I still worry (my incoming Senior has big dreams of college ball but truly struggles with some academic areas) I'm mostly watching it all unfold. He finally has a coach who "sees" him and is eager to connect him with colleges. I could NEVER have planned this. Guess God did  .
My biggest area of influence, in the end, may just be that I gave each child a space to become their best self. Not a perfect self. Just a person who tries and fails and tries again. They've engaged deeply in the world and deeply at home. It hasn't been all about academics, and I'm glad. It's been a lot about relationships, character formation, trust, vulnerability, failure, winning .
My third is an incoming freshman. He is his own person as well - go figure! I'm honestly looking forward to it all over again. I'm glad they all chose to stay home for these precious years  .
Love chatting with you ladies about a topic dear to my heart. Thanks
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I'm not reluctant to start another thread. With the proviso that even the best plans don't always go as planned.
What I hate is that so much of high school planning discussion presumes so much that just often doesn't fit us. So either we are complete freaks (I'm open to that possibility) or too often the discussion is only shallow, when I need the nitty gritty.
There is very little talk about logistics, cost, the daily grind, how much the counselor role can suck or be rewarding (sometimes both on the same day) and how this is a marathon where crossing the finish line is somewhat anticlimactic because it's very stressful to cross it and see that it's just another marathon to finish college. Or that I have 9 more marathons to run with younger kids.
That all sounds terribly negative, but it's not. It just takes a lot of personal motivation to view it positively some days.
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Martha wrote:
I'm not reluctant to start another thread. With the proviso that even the best plans don't always go as planned.
What I hate is that so much of high school planning discussion presumes so much that just often doesn't fit us. So either we are complete freaks (I'm open to that possibility) or too often the discussion is only shallow, when I need the nitty gritty.
There is very little talk about logistics, cost, the daily grind, how much the counselor role can suck or be rewarding (sometimes both on the same day) and how this is a marathon where crossing the finish line is somewhat anticlimactic because it's very stressful to cross it and see that it's just another marathon to finish college. Or that I have 9 more marathons to run with younger kids.
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O Martha - I am sitting her with the box of Kleenex. What you have said is so true - not negative but reality. Any you are right - crossing the finishing line is not really crossing - but starting a whole new marathon. And the idea of doing this whole counselor thing again in 3/4 years scares the wits of of me!
But knowing that God has the perfect plan for each of our children is a great comfort.
My daughter's graduation notice has one of her favorite Bible verses on - Jeremiah 29v11 'For I know the plans I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”
She also reminds me of another of her (and my) favorite quotes:
"Even suffering is part of the truth of our life. Thus, trying to shield the youngest from every difficulty and experience of suffering, we risk creating, despite our good intentions, fragile persons of little generosity:The capacity to love, in fact, corresponds to the capacity to suffer, and to suffer together." (Pope Benedict XVI)
It is much harder to face the disappointments of our children than our own - I think.
On another note - homeschooling high school has just been great for our family - and our dd leaving in a couple of months will leave a big hole for all of us. She is ready to go - but her siblings, and baby sister especially will really miss her.
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I agree. Overall, I'm very glad to home school high school. It's created opportunities that they would have not had otherwise. It's forced and allowed me to be far more involved in their lives than otherwise. It's permitted time when they needed it tI slow down or to speed up.
My oldest is chomping at the bit to move out. LOL but I have also noticed he has grown much closer to a few siblings the last year or so. A year that he otherwise wouldn't have had if we hadn't had the flexibility to give him some extra time here.
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Not negative at all! Real
Marathon is right. And no one in their right mind is smiling, peppy, and not sweating at mile 13...18...21...
I tend to not discuss the details because I'm not good at them. I'm Miss Macro 
Another thing that I have realized, is that homeschooling high school really, truly, isn't a good choice for some students. So while it has worked well for us, my heart does ache for those who are ill-fitted. I'm not as gung-ho now about homeschooling for high school (in general) as I was 7 years ago because I've seen some students not do well...and I'm not talking just academics. Some of these kids are stunted - small minded, mean-hearted, and just not living in reality. I see their strong-willed parents pushing, protecting, pampering, micro-managing for what outcome? Misery?
Yep, no one wants to really chat about that. Understandable.
So while I'm running a steady marathon pace, it's hard for me to drum up a ton of enthusiasm for the topic as a whole. Now I hope THAT didn't sound negative or harsh.
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I tend to view it slightly different. I think home schooling is not for every PARENT, and that tends to magnify in high school.
I've met those families too, Angie.
This is hard work. This is time consuming work. This is individualizing work. Let's ditch another myth. This does not become "old hat" bc I have 10 kids bc i have 10 INDIVIDUAL kids.
But what makes it hard is working with them instead of for them. It'd be easier, but a disservice if I could just make it like a chore list and have them just do it. (ha. Like chore lists are even that easy!)
I also think parents like you describe would still be that way if their kid was in school. Met plenty of those those too.
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Spot on, Martha. Seriously, thanks for saying the truth beautifully.
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I I think home schooling is not for every PARENT, and that tends to magnify in high school.
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Truth! Right now, Aiden's varsity baseball team can't field a full team because of parents who don't want to "tax" their "boys." Brother.
I'll come back to this later, maybe after the wedding! I just highly encourage those who look to walk this road to be willing to work hard, to encourage positive interactions, to make room for failure, and to find fun  .
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Best bit of conversation on homeschooling high school I have seen in a long time. The last two years of back to back seniors has been HARD!!! I can’t believe how drained I feel....and I can’t believe how quickly it all went...and how bittersweet it all is...and now I need kleenex again....Marilyn, pass me one, Sister. I have learned so much, and will continue to learn, I am sure. My kids are absolutely so different in their academic interests and abilities...it will be learning all over again with the next one.
Thanks for keeping it real.
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4 lads mom wrote:
Best bit of conversation on homeschooling high school I have seen in a long time. The last two years of back to back seniors has been HARD!!! I can’t believe how drained I feel....and I can’t believe how quickly it all went...and how bittersweet it all is...and now I need kleenex again....Marilyn, pass me one, Sister. I have learned so much, and will continue to learn, I am sure. My kids are absolutely so different in their academic interests and abilities...it will be learning all over again with the next one.
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Friend - you and I have taken the rollercoaster together!! I am so chilled out (well if I can ever chill out) about the twins starting high school. I have learned that that His ways are not our ways. DD has written a great article about her path to college which is "ora et labora" - and she has a lot of wise things to say.
(BTW off topic - today is your future son in law's birthday - goodness - the last six years have been quite eventful huh! Actually - just remembering - I believe that it is one of your boy's birthdays too?!!)
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Awwww.... just wanted to wave HI, MARILYN!!! :)
I have one daughter doing her 5th year of college this fall, and one doing his senior year of HS, and one switching to charter school for 10th. They've all had such different journeys. My first one was completely homeschooled all the way through high school. Second one did Kolbe for 9th and charter the rest (he had interests for which I couldn't provide him full support because I didn't know what he needed to get into college, which he wants to do). And 3rd one while probably would do fine career-wise (if he wants to go that route) with a mom-made curriculum, needs the discipline/deadlines that a third party could provide.
Roller-coaster marathon indeed. But I still wouldn't trade having them home for anything. It's not my ideal that they're enrolled in "public school at home" -- there's much to complain about -- but I'm most thankful about the personal relationships that we've been able to retain and continue to build.
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Oh my goodness, it is that time of year, when all of us “pregnancy buddies” were starting to have our babies!! I can’t not believe that little man is six...or that one of my little men is now FIFTEEN!! Send my DD’s article, would love to see it.
Friends, we are in the midst of some 11th hour possible college changes for DS #2.....I’m trying to guard my thoughts and place it all at the Font Of Mercy...
I believe that high school and college stuff is hard whether you homeschool or not....it is all hard. BUT...it is all the good stuff wrapped up in the Cross of difficulty that we need to focus on in the midst of it....as I point that finger directly at me to do just that.
Roller-coaster marathoners.....carry on!!
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Marilyn, send “your DD’s article” is what I meant to say!
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