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Brenda, thanks for the information. We are using Kolbe's high school program and it is working well for us. I was wondering if the praeceptor program for me would compliment what we are doing...? Denise, could you pm me and tell me a bit about it?
(I've really enjoyed looking at CLAA's site and am trying to see how the 2 programs could fit together.)
Thanks everyone! 
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MarieA wrote:
I was wondering if the praeceptor program for me would compliment what we are doing...?
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Sounds great! Go for it!
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Syncletica wrote:
| Also, would these courses qualify as a complete education? I realize that it is superior than modern education, and more desired, but once this was all completed, a child could 'graduate' and be able to find a job, right? When they're looking for a job, this would be recognized as a legit education? |
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I stumbled across this article that answers your question more thoroughly.
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Brenda and Denise,
I have enrolled dd13 in Grammar I. She is moving quickly and wants another class to keep her busy while she waits for subsequent lessons to be ready.
What should I start her on next?
Does she have to finish all "green" courses before taking any "blue" courses?
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my understanding is they are pretty firm on finishing green before moving on. but you have to finish the green in that section, not all the green levels. so you could be in green in math, and blue in grammar. I think?
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Hi Molly & Martha,
My 15-year-old is taking Humanities (blue), Scriptural Catechism (blue), Dialectic (blue) so you can jump into the blue ones if you think your child is ready.
Scriptural Catechism is technically apologetics & since my son is 15 & knows his catechism well, I thought he'd like something like that to sink his teeth into. He's enjoying the class.
He was able to jump into Humanities because he already has some Latin (1/2 of Henle) under his belt but IT IS CHALLENGING for him, especially the memory work.
Also, he's naturally pretty bright so I thought he'd do ok with Dialectic. Apparently it's easier if you have Grammar 1st but it's do-able. He's doing fine with it.
In the case of your daughter Molly, I'd consider Scriptural Catechism, World Chronology, World Geography and/or Classical Vocabulary.
They opened the Stadium this week which is a place for the students to compete. I knew very little about it so imagine my surprise to see my daughter listed as a winner in Catechism & Grammar!
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CLAA looks great and I'm itching to get started!!! I have a "computer" question, though, for those of you who use it. Often, when I've gone to the site to read the articles or try to figure things out, either the pages won't load or they load very slowly. I don't think this is my computer's fault. Do the lessons themselves load smoothly for the student?
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sunshinyliving wrote:
| Often, when I've gone to the site to read the articles or try to figure things out, either the pages won't load or they load very slowly. I don't think this is my computer's fault. Do the lessons themselves load smoothly for the student? |
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I have no idea why that is????? No problems here whatsoever.
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The lessons load fine for my a daughter. We occasionally get a blank screen, but we have spotty internet connection at times.
But, some of their links don't work properly. It took me a lot of searching to find a good link for the parent forum. The one on the parent support page didn't work. Other links don't seem to work at one time and then work later. It took a couple of attempts to enroll my son.
We are used to crazy computer stuff and just keep trying. We are happy with the courses so far.
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Deleting for the sake of charity - I tried to edit but couldn't make it sound any better while still asking my question. Thank you again ladies (here and in PMs) for helping. 
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Hi Amy,
So far any dealings my children have directly had with the school have been positive.
I don't think I should be defending anyone as they can speak for themselves, but I do think the computer is not the best way to gain an understanding of intentions. That being said, I keep away from the forum for the most part except to check it occasionally for any important announcements. The forum is not a requirement of the school. In making our decision to enroll, we decided that the curriculum was too good for us to "throw out the baby with the bathwater".
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Amy,
I also have nothing but positive interactions, as has my son, who has im'd Mr. Michael several times.
I do read the forums, as does my son - we have both learned a great deal from the debate I think you are referencing.
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Amy, I think I know what you are talking about. I was a little put off by some of the conversation on the forum, but I think it is more personality style than something unkind or condescending. I started to tell dh about the apparent arrogance that I felt was part of the discussions when I realized that I was married to someone with the same personality style. He is often considered arrogant and too blunt. But, really, he's a good guy!  So, I decided to give other similar individuals the benefit of the doubt.
Our interaction, so far, has been all positive.
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Thank you for your responses, ladies, I will be pondering them! 
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onemoretracy wrote:
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"All of the physical sciences, with all their information observations and discoveries, lead us no further than the present life. "
"The natural sciences as we know them today were not unknown to the ancients, they were undesired. As the study of the wisdom-seeker was directed at the elevation of the soul, the value of the study of the physical world was understood to be limited. This is the source of the necessary balance in science education. "
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Just wanted to share Tracy that Mr. Michael is a huge fan of natural science as his family lives on a farm.
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I'm glad you said this Brenda, because I don't think he is right to say that the ancients weren't concerned with science. They were obsessed with it. But it was based on their observations - that's different than the textbook approach to science today. Please forgive me for speaking out of turn on this topic since I haven't read Mr. Michael's work very much. But the ancients put together incredible science study based on their observations and created philosophy study to explain those natural observations, to make sense of the natural world, to find a way to talk about it, and then from there to the metaphysical. You can't really read Aristotle's The Metaphysics and De Anima, for example, without first reading his The Physics and Prior Analytics. And, the most interesting Aristotle I read was History of Animals. Try reading the original Hippocrates and Galen - fascinating. Galen does assert that a doctor should study philosophy to be a better doctor, but the philosophy is drawn from or goes with the experiential.
I think maybe he wants to say that the particular minutiae of detail in modern science programs is not as good as training in thinking. (? maybe?) And that you need training in thinking before studying the minutiae so you don't get blindsided by other people's opinions or interpretations of the minutiae.
I look forward to reading more of Mr. Michael's point of view because his program sounds really intriguing.
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Regards courses, how long do you find on average it takes a child to complete? I'm thinking more of my dd16.
I've just finished making up an excel spreadsheet com pairing all the online Catholic programs I can find.
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Hi Erin,
I was just coming over here to update on my 15-year-old, especially in light of your pending decision. We decided this week to switch Matthew to Grammar I from Humanities. It has taken him 10+ weeks to memorize 3/4 of Cicero's "Pro Archias" speech & that's just lesson 2. Mr. Michael has allowed students like Matthew who have taken Latin with another program to try out Humanities but none of them have been really up to the rigor. After Grammar 1-3, they are much better prepared. Since Matthew's also enrolled in Memoria Press's Henle course (the 2nd 1/2) he should go through Grammar rather quickly. Humanities is required for Rhetoric so that does slow us down a bit. In the meantime, he can start taking the courses in the Philosophy & Theology stream. Also, he can fill in with the PA homeschoolers AP courses.
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A motivated child can move pretty quickly, but it depends on the difficulty of the courses & the course load. My 15-year-old can get through Grammar I at the rate of 1 lesson in 1-2 days but there's also a bit of lag time (1 day usually) with waiting for the course to advance ahead. Also he's been through 1/2 Henle + already at this point. Scriptural Catechism can be done comfortably at 1 lesson per week. Dialectic is very challenging especially in the 1st few lessons but 1/week-2 weeks seems do-able.
We set a general goal to finish 1 lesson/week but some weeks can be a bit more challenging & the lesson might "overflow" into the next week. I don't stress about it. At this point, our philosophy is "some is better than none". With this type of curriculum, there's really no finishing it all with the older kids. The courses are so worthwhile that most colleges are a step backwards  .
HTH!
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I've read as far as this so far:
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I am so grateful for you directing me to this Brenda, I will complete reading this all later today and then start exploring CLAA itself, but more importantly I'll start that novena you suggested, and it's right in time for his feast day too! He is my oldest son's school patron and it's the beginning of the schooling year in Australia ~ this seems it could be an answer to my recent prayers for a homeschooling direction...
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