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Thank you, Thank you ! for such a beautiful gift, Anne of Green Gables, High School credits and it's Catholic ! The whole thing just makes me weep (for joy of course ). I know where to come when my two girls are old enough.
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We let the girls plan their days. I gave Mary Beth the document with Sunflower Basket books and notes and handed her the Good News planner. Then, I let her plan. We'll see how it goes. She considered her time away from home assisting in an atrium and the days that she has dance. She divided out chapters and pages and threw herself into plotting it all (I wonder where she gets that  ). I'm sure her next lesson will be "The Joy of Tweaking."
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 ...Joy of Tweaking... one is either born with this, or not, I think. I'll have to think about this. I'm not sure what my dd would think about planning her days herself. You didn't give any other guidance beyond the resource listings? No deadlines for anything to be completed or anything like that?
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For those of us who are not as nature study gifted, what do you envision a week's schedule looking like for the botany course? |
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Hmmm...the weeks vary. See the next answer below...but briefly, our week of natural history springs from the previous week's nature walk. Sometimes we take an actual walk (this is preferable, but not always possible) so sometimes we walk around the house, or through the treeline out back. We tend to alternate - elaborate, planned walks with informal hunting about the gardens around home regularly. You need not have elaborate spaces for this - a walk around the flowers in front of our front porch have yielded some of the most delightful surprises. So, with the nature walk in mind:
:: Using Countryside Rambles by William Furneaux - choose a "ramble" for the next nature walk. Read a seasonal chapter and plan the location of the next walk. We're fortunate to have access to a variety of different locations practically in our backyard. I think it's important not only to develop a familiarity with flora and fauna in an area over a regular basis (so the same tree, creek, hedges, fields, pastures through the seasons), but also to introduce children to algae, minnows, beaver dams, birds nests in hedgerows, swamps, rivers, banks and beaches, etc. in areas that are new and less familiar. I always try to remind the children to look with fresh eyes anytime we go somewhere because in a familiar setting lovely surprises can be overlooked if you aren't watchful. Countryside Rambles is set up seasonally, so Sarah reads from the pertinent season and we plan from there. She might choose to read "The Woods in Summer" one week. She plans the setting of the next walk in a lovely grove of woods that parallels a swamp setting. She reads and anticipates what she might find. We discuss possible/probable sightings. She reads on Deciduous Woodlands in Amateur Naturalist. She packs her naturalist bag.  We walk. This entire process of reading, anticipating, planning may take a place over a couple of weeks - this doesn't necessarily happen EVERY week here.
Last week we found a lovely thick grove of plentiful wild blackberries with deer trails all around right on the edge of a little thicket. This wasn't the only thing we spotted on our walk, but ended up being the inspiration for the remainder of our week. I'll use that to illustrate further...
:: Additional reading for the week would come from the botanical selections in the basket - a little reading from Botany in a Day, appropriate/applicable work in Botany Coloring Book (which is a very meaty coloring book indeed with loads of information on each botanical illustration!)...and loads and loads on whatever we found on our latest nature walk - so to continue the illustration - last week it was all about the wild blackberries we found - who eats them? leaf identification? the flower? what likes to grow near wild blackberries?? POISON IVY!! botanical symbolism and meaning?? (did you know the blackberry is a symbol of envy and lowliness because its thorns can snag you and trip you up?). We like spending lots of time on the rabbit trails that come up after nature walks. And then...
:: After identifying and classifying an item/s from the nature walk, she watercolors/pencils it and journals about it in her Country Diary. (Sarah has decided she is completely inspired by Edith Holden and thus has taken to calling her nature journal her {{{please say this with an air in your voice and your nose slightly upturned}}} Country Diary of a Young Lady. This is the place for lovely calligraphy penmanship, flourishes, and botanical watercolors. She is by no means limited to one illustration either!!! We found 11 skink eggs that had been disturbed from their nest and by some miracle hatched them all 2 weeks ago!! That was an example of a great spontaneous journaling project!! (which also provided a wonderful opportunity for the children to exercise the rules of a naturalist which is that you only keep a creature long enough to observe it...I had visions of 11 pet skinks! LOL!)
:: There's also a lot of discussion about the naturalist we're studying - Edith Holden - and some work in the Book of Centuries with regard to her accomplishments and pertinent happenings in the developing science of Natural History.
Along with the reading for the baskets, there will be a few projects which will involve ongoing observations and journaling. Sarah will choose these based on interest. We haven't decided if we will take on a formal project or just let them happen. So far, Our Lord has been generous - this month we've hatched 11 skinks, been privileged enough to watch a baby Mockingbird fledgling, observed a Killdeer on her ground nest (in the middle of our side yard) hatch 4 eggs. Natural History projects are all around if we take the time to appreciate all the gentle opportunities nature offers right in our own backyards. So, I'm inclined to encourage learning and observation on nature's schedule right now. That may change if I come up with an idea that isn't forced!
There's so much informal discussion in these times it's hard to journal all the happenings. But, hopefully you have an idea of a week with Natural History.
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And from this on the Serendipity web site:
"However, both our young ladies have enjoyed a more focused approach in which they complete some Religion, Math, and Latin daily, while choosing the remainder of the day to focus time and attention on one other subject at a time, moving through Literature, History, Natural History, Homemaking and Hospitality choices at their own pace."
Are you envisioning one subject a day, 4-5 days a week? History, Botany, Literature, Home Ec, and Child Development/Nutrition once a week, for a couple of hours? I've never schooled that way before, but I do like the idea of it. What does that look like, practically? |
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Sarah does a Latin lesson, Algebra lesson, a little poetry time, and Baltimore Catechism quiz time daily. And there are always natural history opportunities that just *happen*. The rest of the time is for her to manage. She has chosen to work on 2 of the other subject options at a time in a focused way. (She enjoys alternating between long periods of literature/reading and hand work, so she plans accordingly.) Right now, she's just finishing up her Literature selections and is still in the midst of her Natural History. What this allows is real depth of study - so if she is identifying a botanical specimen, she can take plenty of time to do that and then feel free to watercolor and even journal without feeling like she has to hurry to get to 7 other subjects to fit in the day. Not everyone likes to approach it this way, but we really find it allows for her to have the time to develop thoughts and ideas without feeling rushed to start something completely new.
Practically speaking, I've built the day like this:
:: Morning basket - includes Baltimore Catechism lesson and story, poetry, nature story/reading.
:: Latin lesson
:: Algebra lesson
:: 2 - 3 Literature for the Young Lady blocks of time which Sarah manages and plans for.
Hope this helps, Books. I fear I've gone on and on!
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I helped Sarah with planning. We sat down together and did it. We reassess each week together right now. She may be able to do this on her own by the end of the year. The idea is to model time management, so I like to give examples of ways she could arrange something and let her choose how it looks so there is a sense of ownership. It is my hope that once she and I have done this together a few times she will gain skill and confidence. I think time management is a VERY important skill to begin acquiring right now!!
Mary Beth, I think, is much more naturally inclined to planning on her own and I think did much if not all her planning on her own.
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| Mary Beth, I think, is much more naturally inclined to planning on her own and I think did much if not all her planning on her own. |
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Yep. She did. I'm not sure if it's a natural inclination or the survival strategy of the middle child in a big family. She knew she better not wait for me
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Jennifer, you aren't going on and on at all! This is incredibly helpful to me. I'm printing out all of this, and my color printer is finishing up those lovely planning pages that I somehow missed the first time I visited serendipity. Breathtakingly beautiful.
I don't have an artistic touch like you two do. I can take others ideas and make them my own, but I need to see what the original artist has in mind first. I am more than a little bit artistically challenged.  And I won't even tell you about my black thumb...other than to say its embarrassing... 
I have another question. Do you see any reason that this could not be used as the basis for 9th and 10th grade instead of the 8th and 9? I'm envisioning a little more history/geography so that the first year is a 9th grade world history credit and the second is an American History credit. And novel choices would be in the American Lit. genre for the second year (plus, can't you envision the stately world of the pre-civil war south incorporated into this?  ). Wouldn't this be a lovely lovely way to celebrate 2 yrs of high school?
I think what I love about this the most is that it really feels like a celebration of the feminine as well as being scholarly, rather than *just* a scholarly study. I was on another popular web site for high school curriculum recently, and they were prefacing their ideas with the "high school is hard and its supposed to be that way" lecture. And I felt my own eyes glazing over. Its not that I don't think curricula should be challenging. But does it have to be dry and boring to be challenging? I'm babbling now...I have been thinking so much about philosophy of learning ideas lately that I am finding myself looking at all of this with that lens...and its just so refreshing.
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| Jennifer, you aren't going on and on at all! This is incredibly helpful to me. I'm printing out all of this, and my color printer is finishing up those lovely planning pages that I somehow missed the first time I visited serendipity. Breathtakingly beautiful. |
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Oh, I do hope they are helpful to you, Books! That was the idea anyway - that in seeing them, they would spark ideas for how one might incorporate this in their own home.
Just for reference:
There are 2 sets of plans/resource lists on all the posts - Sarah's plans and Mary Beth's plans. There are also several printables to aid in translating this into your own home.
On the introductory post you'll find the girl's resource lists for the year. This contains most of the books they'll use and how they break out into the individual baskets for the year.
On the second post - the Sunflower Basket post you'll find the following printables:
:: Sunflower Basket Mary Beth - her detailed plans for this basket.
:: Sunflower Basket Sarah - her detailed plans for this basket.
:: Sunflower planning sheets - blanks to assist in planning
:: Weekly Rhythm and Planning - blanks to assist in planning
:: Sunflower Basket blank - planning - blanks to assist in planning
As time and our vocations allow, we'll add further baskets and printables.
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I'm sure this would work as well. The age/grade suggestions are just that! Actually the age and maturity would be helpful in digging into some of the darker subjects of this period such as those characterized by Charles Dickens. The second year offers Hillaire Belloc, CS Lewis, Oscar Wilde, William Shakespeare, etc.
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| I'm envisioning a little more history/geography so that the first year is a 9th grade world history credit and the second is an American History credit. And novel choices would be in the American Lit. genre for the second year (plus, can't you envision the stately world of the pre-civil war south incorporated into this? ). Wouldn't this be a lovely lovely way to celebrate 2 yrs of high school? |
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Yes!
Both Elizabeth and I talked about pre/Civil-war History especially as it relates to Louisa May Alcott. She had covered it recently, and I decided not to dig in too much because Sarah is still studying some Greek/Roman history alongside all of these plans, but there is an opportunity there just begging for more research - just plug in your book choices.
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| I think what I love about this the most is that it really feels like a celebration of the feminine as well as being scholarly, rather than *just* a scholarly study. I was on another popular web site for high school curriculum recently, and they were prefacing their ideas with the "high school is hard and its supposed to be that way" lecture. And I felt my own eyes glazing over. Its not that I don't think curricula should be challenging. But does it have to be dry and boring to be challenging? I'm babbling now...I have been thinking so much about philosophy of learning ideas lately that I am finding myself looking at all of this with that lens...and its just so refreshing. |
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I'm soooo glad to hear you say that, Books! It is affirming because I felt that way, and I think Elizabeth did as well, but it sure is good to hear someone else say it!!! Thanks!
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I have another question. Do you see any reason that this could not be used as the basis for 9th and 10th grade instead of the 8th and 9? I'm envisioning a little more history/geography so that the first year is a 9th grade world history credit and the second is an American History credit. And novel choices would be in the American Lit. genre for the second year (plus, can't you envision the stately world of the pre-civil war south incorporated into this? ). Wouldn't this be a lovely lovely way to celebrate 2 yrs of high school? |
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Absolutely, positively could be two high school years with just a little tweaking. And I think it's a great "celebration" 
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My dd16, is planning a home economics project this year. This is just so timely, I'd already sent her to your St Martha's Apron Strings Jen and she spent a happy time browsing.
She can now tweak these plans to suit her needs.
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I'm looking at this as middle school ... to prep Maggie for high school as she might go to dh's high school and she needs all the tools in the quiver before then ! I'm thinking of spreading this over a three year period with her ... really delving into the virtues, historic figures to emulate (or not  ) and letting her steep herself in being a burgeoning woman!
I really appreciate all your plans Jen and Elizabeth; I'm going to spend the next year accumulating and reading and working of what to present when and then letting her tweak as she sees fit!
I love the flexibility and my mind is just so excited aobut this!
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Well, it was timely, Jen, that y'all put this up yesterday because I had gotten the boys' paperwork out of the way and was just sitting down to write up Katie's! I have to tell you that she was terribly excited to see all the Edith Holden stuff. She had already decided she wanted to do botany this year, so I had gotten a few resources already. I think we're going to add in a (relaxed) study of herbs.
Now, she's not quite 10.5, but a very mature 10.5 and has already read the first 2 Anne books a million times, so I think she's going to focus on Little Women. She won't be able to read some of the other selections for a while -- like Pride and Prejudice -- so I'm definitely tweaking. Do you have any suggestions to tweak this just a shade younger? Her reading and writing skills are excellent; it's just the maturity of some of the books. (And I actually thought the child development books wouldn't be too interesting for her, but she got rather indignant with me when I suggested we drop that part of the curriculum. )
I'm going to use that chart (well, minus the sunflowers) to help my oldest ds plan his year, too, so thank you... I have to confess that when I was first reading through the curriculum my ADD kicked in and I was having a hard time putting it all together because there was so much there. But the chart you included laying out the Sunflower basket cleared it up nicely, and I think I'm going to make my own male version. Did you use Word?
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Waah, I don't have a girl in that age range 
I think I'll go have a look-see anyway to check if there's anything I can use with my boys
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Angela,
Jen used Pages (Mac's Word processing) and the pretty PDFs are final copies of Pages versions. ButI bounced back and forth between Pages and Word and we actually began the whole thing as a Google Doc that was a shared document so that we could both see it as it was updated. If ever you want to collaborate, I highly recommend Google Docs. Almost everything on Serendipity was a Google Doc first.
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Oh, and Angela, we did a study of herbs a couple of years ago. It was a rabbit trail that spanned ages and genders very well.
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| Well, it was timely, Jen, that y'all put this up yesterday because I had gotten the boys' paperwork out of the way and was just sitting down to write up Katie's! I have to tell you that she was terribly excited to see all the Edith Holden stuff. She had already decided she wanted to do botany this year, so I had gotten a few resources already. I think we're going to add in a (relaxed) study of herbs. |
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I found this book on MacBeth's site a couple of years ago and we have loved it - Sarah has asked that it be part of her study this year ((see...I'm still tweaking))...Identifying and Harvesting Edible and Medicinal Plants in Wild and Not So Wild Places. It would fit nicely into this year's study of Botany.
Btw, the Natural History course would be perfect for a young man - just take out Edith Holden and substitute John James Audubon and run with the rest. Henry Thoreau would be another good naturalist to study.
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| Now, she's not quite 10.5, but a very mature 10.5 and has already read the first 2 Anne books a million times, so I think she's going to focus on Little Women. She won't be able to read some of the other selections for a while -- like Pride and Prejudice -- so I'm definitely tweaking. Do you have any suggestions to tweak this just a shade younger? |
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This course is very tweakable...maybe put in some Kate Wiggins books in place of Pride and Prejudice. Those are lovely books set in period - Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, and A Child's Journey With Dickens (which is already in my plans to study alongside Dickens). Also, Louisa May Alcott has a number of delightful books you could add in and tweak the history a bit to reflect some Civil War studies. There's Old Fashioned Girl and so many more. There's much I would do with LMA - here is a great link to Orchard House - the family home. They have some wonderful resources on their site. You could discuss Louisa May Alcott's experience as a civil war nurse and also bring in some about Florence Nightingale. Ignatius has a new Vision Book out on her - Florence Nightingale's Nuns. The history magazines that are listed on the plans are would be fine for that age. I really prefer the old Cobblestone magazines.
These are just a few ideas off the top of my head. There are certainly many ways you could tweak this for a younger girl and still leave the Anne books and the spirit of the curriculum which is full of embracing and fostering virtue and a spirit of authentic femininity for a growing young lady.
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| I'm going to use that chart (well, minus the sunflowers) to help my oldest ds plan his year, too, so thank you... I have to confess that when I was first reading through the curriculum my ADD kicked in and I was having a hard time putting it all together because there was so much there. But the chart you included laying out the Sunflower basket cleared it up nicely, and I think I'm going to make my own male version. Did you use Word? |
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I'm so sorry it was overwhelming at first!!! I was afraid it might be. I'm glad the charts helped give a vision.
I can't remember what I used for the planning pages - I acquired a copy of Pages, a mac based word processor, somewhere in the middle of working on this. I just inserted a table in a document though - whether it was Word or Pages. The sunflower baskets themselves were done in Pages. I think the other planning sheets were originally Word docs. I'll email you the planning docs sans sunflowers!
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Mary G wrote:
I'm looking at this as middle school ... to prep Maggie for high school as she might go to dh's high school and she needs all the tools in the quiver before then ! I'm thinking of spreading this over a three year period with her ... really delving into the virtues, historic figures to emulate (or not ) and letting her steep herself in being a burgeoning woman!
I really appreciate all your plans Jen and Elizabeth; I'm going to spend the next year accumulating and reading and working of what to present when and then letting her tweak as she sees fit!
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I could see this as a gorgeous middle school unit as well. I have been scribbling on paper all morning and ended up breaking up a lot of this into a 3 yr block, so I know its doable, even though my breakdown is for 3 yrs of high school (I'm planning 8th-10th for high school credit). I love Jen's ideas for middle school literature, too.
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I did something very similar in theory with Michael when he was this age. It was a coming-of-age curriculum that was geared towards being a young man. Don't have an e-version of it anymore. But I do have hard copies and I do plan to reinvent that wheel in a couple of years for Stephen and Nicky
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I did something very similar in theory with Michael when he was this age. It was a coming-of-age curriculum that was geared towards being a young man. Don't have an e-version of it anymore. But I do have hard copies and I do plan to reinvent that wheel in a couple of years for Stephen and Nicky |
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I'll be waiting.
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I neglected to say that it looks fantastic! 
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A Lee in the Woudes
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Topic: Serendipitys latest
