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Posted: June 14 2007 at 3:05pm | IP Logged Quote MaryM

Thanks ladies, somehow those girl titles had evaded my radar. Too much testosterone around here, I think.

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Posted: June 18 2007 at 12:31am | IP Logged Quote ann@home

My son has been begging me for this book and we picked it up from Costco last week. He's already made a slingshot, paper water bombs, and some hammering/nailing that I'm not sure about.....
The thing I love is that he's READING it He's a struggling reader so almost anything that gets his attention is fine by me.

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Posted: June 18 2007 at 5:36am | IP Logged Quote Lisbet

I gave this to my husband for Fathers Day and it was a smashing hit! Did anyone else catch the paragraph on computer programmers and their ruddy complexion??

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Posted: June 18 2007 at 9:31am | IP Logged Quote Caroline

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Did anyone else catch the paragraph on computer programmers and their ruddy complexion??


I didn't catch that! Where is it? I gave it to dh for Father's day and it was a big hit here too! He started working on the knots almost immediately.   

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Posted: June 18 2007 at 10:00am | IP Logged Quote Lisbet

Caroline,
page 110:
Play a sport of some kind. It doensn't matter what it is, as long as it replaced teh corpse-like pallor of the computer programmer with a ruddy glow. Honestly, this is more important than you know.

My programmer husband was slightly offended by this! I, on the other hand, found it hysterical!

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Posted: June 19 2007 at 2:07pm | IP Logged Quote jugglingpaynes

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Caroline,
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Play a sport of some kind. It doensn't matter what it is, as long as it replaced teh corpse-like pallor of the computer programmer with a ruddy glow. Honestly, this is more important than you know.

My programmer husband was slightly offended by this! I, on the other hand, found it hysterical!

The Girls section was the first place my hubby looked when the kids gave him this book for Fathers' Day. LOL He's definitely a computer nerd and found this extremely funny! He also enjoyed reading about the different battles, being a war history buff.
Thanks for discussing this book. I never would have thought to get it for a Fathers' Day gift. I'm a girl after all.
Peace and Laughter,

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Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:07am | IP Logged Quote mariB

We got the book too! I love how it covers all the bases. Even latin and grammar! WooHoo!

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Posted: June 22 2007 at 7:40am | IP Logged Quote time4tea

Thanks everyone for your reviews on this! I am expecting my 3rd girl in about a month now. Our two oldest are boys, ages 14 and 12, and I plan to buy each one a copy as a "big brother" gift for when the new baby arrives. I don't find it at all offensive that girls are not explicitly included in either the title or the text of the book itself. When you think about it, there is really so much out there - old and new - that is "girl specific", and really nothing new for just boys. I am actually very concerned about how ignored boys have become in our society in general - school performance rates among boys have trailed way off, they are not tackling subjects (at least in brick and mortar schools) such as higher math and science anywhere near to the levels they used to, and college attendance rates among young men are also sinking through the floor. I actually wrote a letter to the superintendent of schools for our state about this very issue, and she responded to me with a letter that if it weren't so chilling would be hilariously funny. In it, she told me that despite the fact that girls are way outshining their male counterparts scholastically, I need not be concerned, because there are some new things on the horizon to help boys excel academically. She then went on to detail a series of comic books directed to boys which the state dept. of ed. was gong to be buying, which she assured me were just as good for the intellectual development of boys as classic literature......I don't have to think for too long about how Charlotte Mason would respond to that one!



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Posted: June 22 2007 at 6:26pm | IP Logged Quote missionfamily

Got this book today as a gift for ds' 9th birthday tomorrow. Wanted to get it for Father's Day but didn't make it to town...dh won't give it back for me to wrap it up for ds!

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Posted: June 28 2007 at 12:20pm | IP Logged Quote allegiance_mom

"I'm not sure about the section called "girls"?????"

I read it this morning at the library and it is harmless for young boys' purity. While intended for older teens, it offers advice on how to speak to a girl, to listen, to help lift a heavy object. The most sweet part was the advice to send an anonymous Valentine to a girl who you think might not get any! Very chivalrous! I have no qualms about my 9 year old reading this section of the book.
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Posted: June 29 2007 at 9:36am | IP Logged Quote knowloveserve

very nice. It looks like a repackaged version of a very old OOP book we have called The Young Man's Handbook or something to that effect.

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I just bought this for my sons and my oldest loves it!
He and his friends are making a go-cart and learning to play poker. It's a beautiful book too.

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Posted: June 30 2007 at 12:23pm | IP Logged Quote Mary G

MaryM wrote:
My 11 year old dd was looking through it today and commented she really wished there was an equivelant book for girls. She was walking around with her nose buried in it and I asked what she was reading - she looked up and said, "The section on girls." I asked how that was and she indicated that she wished the boys in our homeschool group would read it and do what it says. In particular this quote was one she could relate to.

If you see a girl in need of help - unable to lift something, for example - do not taunt her. Approach the object and greet her with a cheerful smile, while surrepititiously testing the weight of the object. If you find you can lift it, go ahead. If you can't, try sitting on it and engaging her in conversation.

Can you tell we've been facing some pre-teen "teasing" boys recently?

Mary M,

Have you tried the American Girls' Handy Book or Big Book of Girl Stuff or Great Big Glorious Book for Girls which is currently only in UK but with the success of the boys' book will probably come over here fairly soon ... I might try and mail order one from UK anyway!

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Posted: July 02 2007 at 6:43pm | IP Logged Quote nissag

Fantastic - so much like our fave "American Boys HandyBook". Looks like a must buy for your family!

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Posted: July 03 2007 at 11:12pm | IP Logged Quote Tina P.

ann@home wrote:
The thing I love is that he's READING it He's a struggling reader so almost anything that gets his attention is fine by me.


Ann, take heart. It took Usborne's Farmyard Tales for my then-eight-year-old to read. Now, at just 9, he zips through Landmarks (the history series), science encyclopedias, and books about Frank Lloyd Wright. Sometimes I think kids just need a jumping-off point. And what a wonderful one your found!

Thank you for all the advice and links (can't wait until the girl book arrives in the US). We ordered the Dangerous Book for Boys for our turning-13-in-three-days boy, our 9 yo, and our turning-eight-in-four-days boy. I *thought* I ordered it on time for the birthday duo, but Amazon will only be shipping it 7/5. Thankfully, my kids don't get too concerned about gifts that arrive late. Hmmm ... have they gotten too used to it?

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Posted: Dec 27 2007 at 8:38pm | IP Logged Quote Martha

I know this is about the boys books, but there was some minor mention of the girls too...

so I will say this after getting the Dangerous Book for Boys - awesome.

unfortunately we also received the Daring book for girls, which is no where near daring and is not appropriate for young Catholic girls imnsho.

numerous things I didn't like
when mentioning how to do the "light as a feather and stiff as a board" trick, it mentions several saints (such as Teresa of Avila) and then says in a rather insinuating way that it is now understood that leviation is simply a neat trick.
palm readng is light covered
as well as chanting to get a dead ghost to show you your future husband in a "mirror mirror on the wall" fashion
several women referenced are also referenced as having been mistresses and/or having run off to get married to rascals against their parents' wishes.

numerous feminist agenda references throughout

aside from all of that, even if one was okay with that stuff, there is nothing even remotely "daring" in the book! The boys book has lots of activities and such - cool stuff to DO. The non-daring book for girls is just boring.

I'll second the American Handibook for Girls. We have it and although it isn't daring, it is very girly fun.

I've noted the other girl books references previoius and have high hopes for them because we are horridly disappointed in this other waste of paper we have.

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Posted: Dec 27 2007 at 9:41pm | IP Logged Quote aiereis

I agree, Martha. We were given both books for Christmas and after looking through both of them, my husband and I decided that The Dangerous Book was a keeper, but the Daring Book had too much of the occult and feminist tainting. We are planning on selling it on Amazon and taking the money to buy the American Girls Handibook instead.

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Posted: Dec 27 2007 at 9:43pm | IP Logged Quote Michaela

Martha, I appreciate you taking the time to post your review of the girl's version of the book. I've seen it at a few stores. Actually, I almost bought it last weekend for a Christmas gift for my dd, but decided to wait until I had more time to look through it.

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Posted: Dec 27 2007 at 11:15pm | IP Logged Quote SallyT

My teenager got The Jane Austen Handbook, by Margaret Sullivan, for Christmas. It's a fun book for an older girl, especially one who likes Jane Austen (obviously!). It's a very tongue-in-cheek primer of life in Regency England, and aside from a few mild feminist insinuations, mostly to do with having to get married because there wasn't much else a respectable woman could do, it seems to be pretty "clean." I'll have to look at it again and provide a fuller review, but she really likes it.

My daughter was asking me to play whist with her tonight. Fortunately she doesn't seem tempted to try out eloping to Scotland . . .

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Posted: Dec 28 2007 at 11:01am | IP Logged Quote JenniferS

Our dd received the Daring Book... for Christmas from an extended family member. I really am disappointed in it, adn I would love to get rid of it. Dh thinks it is harmless, and his mother bought it, so I am stuck. Luckily, dd has a pretty good grounding and she recognized many of the icky stuff right away. I am still concerned.

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