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A couple of times I have posted about my concerns with washing the linens at church. Recently I saw a Carmelite Nun in her 80s who turned out to be the sacristan at her convent - and asked her about soaking etc. She said that "a good authority", a bishop but she didn't say who, decided that we didn't need to do that anymore, as the consecrated host and wine are not really the Body and Blood of Jesus, but just symbols. At once the deafening ringing of alarm bells filled my head. That cannot be true, can it? She said, it is not just wine and bread, but nor is it the Body and Blood and we do wrong to treat it like the "real blood and body of Jesus would be treated". So I just am baffled.
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No, Lucy, what she is saying is not the teaching of the Church, though unfortunately there are those (lay, priests, religious) who do not believe in the real presence and teach error. It is the TRUE body and blood of our Lord.
Here are some references from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
1333 At the heart of the Eucharistic celebration are the bread and wine that, by the words of Christ and the invocation of the Holy Spirit, become Christ's Body and Blood. Faithful to the Lord's command the Church continues to do, in his memory and until his glorious return, what he did on the eve of his Passion: "He took bread. . . ." "He took the cup filled with wine. . . ." The signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ; they continue also to signify the goodness of creation. Thus in the Offertory we give thanks to the Creator for bread and wine,154 fruit of the "work of human hands," but above all as "fruit of the earth" and "of the vine" - gifts of the Creator. The Church sees in the gesture of the king-priest Melchizedek, who "brought out bread and wine," a prefiguring of her own offering.
1353 In the epiclesis, the Church asks the Father to send his Holy Spirit (or the power of his blessing) on the bread and wine, so that by his power they may become the body and blood of Jesus Christ and so that those who take part in the Eucharist may be one body and one spirit (some liturgical traditions put the epiclesis after the anamnesis).
In the institution narrative, the power of the words and the action of Christ, and the power of the Holy Spirit, make sacramentally present under the species of bread and wine Christ's body and blood, his sacrifice offered on the cross once for all.
1357 We carry out this command of the Lord by celebrating the memorial of his sacrifice. In so doing, we offer to the Father what he has himself given us: the gifts of his creation, bread and wine which, by the power of the Holy Spirit and by the words of Christ, have become the body and blood of Christ. Christ is thus really and mysteriously made present.
1358 We must therefore consider the Eucharist as:
- thanksgiving and praise to the Father;
- the sacrificial memorial of Christ and his Body;
- the presence of Christ by the power of his word and of his Spirit.
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And this from the USCCB Committee on the Liturgy (scroll down to the section/article "The Care and CLeaning of Altar Linens"...
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| Purificators: Purificators are customarily brought to the altar with chalices and are used to wipe the Precious Blood from the rim of the chalice and to purify sacred vessels. They should be white in color. Whenever the Precious Blood is distributed from the chalice, poured into ancillary vessels or even accidentally spilled, purificators are to be used to absorb the spill. The material of purificators should be absorbent and easily laundered. The purificator should never be made of paper or any other disposable material. Because of their function, purificators regularly become stained with the Precious Blood. It is, therefore, essential that they should first be cleansed in a sacrarium and only afterwards washed with laundry soaps in the customary manner. Purificators should be ironed in such a way that they may be easily used for the wiping of the lip of the chalice. |
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I know you are not in the United States, but the guidelines and beliefs would not be different.
Fr. Z reviewed, Handbook for Laundering Liturgical Linens.
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This is so disheartening to hear things like this!
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An 80 year old nun..that is very sad because you can be sure that when she took her vows, she did not believe that. Praying that this sister will regain her belief before she departs this earth.
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Oh, my goodness! Not only is this wrong but so very,very sad that a nun would say such a thing! The real presence is a basic tenet of our faith!
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