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Hi! I was wondering if anyone has used the ABCs of Christian Culture from Our Father's House, and if so, what texts and books are used with the course (the description says it is not a self-contained course, but that there are numerous outside resources for reading and research).
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Christine
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I have a very, very old version of ABCs. I liked it a lot for my younger ones. In the section on Egypt, they list A general encyclopedia, Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt by Elizabeth Payne, Riddle of the Rosetta Stone by James Cross Giblin, Pyramid by David McCauley, Wrapped for Eternity by Mildred Mastin Pace (oop), Six Egyptian postcards, Ancient Egypt Coloring book and then they list about 7 resources for younger students - stencils, stickers, punch out kits, and the book "Growing Up in Ancient Egypt by Rosalie David.
The cards of major historical players are neat as are the map work. The repetitiveness is a bit stilted. I did love the middle ages unit where they put all these universities and their founding on a map. They did end up with a good general, but simple overview. You could certainly add tons of your own stuff in.
In case you haven't noticed - we've used a lot of different stuff in this household. Mine is from 2001.
Each time period has a list of books. The easiest way to figure it out is to look at the catelogue in the time period. She has her books divided like her ABCs. She may even give you a book list if you are considering it.
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Can anyone else comment on this program? Likes and dislikes or reccomendations for something else?
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I really rate this programme very highly. I would not describe it as "simple" at all, but I have the updated version of level A, plus level B. I have only used level A so far.
I find the writing and research assignments to be variable in difficulty, from quite easy straightforward narration to really challenging essay topics and creative writing assignments. Reading and writing assignments are supplemented, if that is the word, by time-line work and map work. There are cards with well known historical figures to use with the time-lines, and a wall chart giving a good overview of historical progression/time periods. There are quizzes and map tests also. All is taught from a Catholic perspective.
This programme got a very good write up by Cathy Duffy in her curriculum manual. If you are looking for a pared-down curriculum (in the sense of reduced number of subjects) this may be for you, as it covers history, geography, language arts, church history and some doctrine and even a little bit of nature study all in one. This could be your main focus for high school with only high school science, maths, foreign language and maybe a R.E. programme added in.
It is the most intelligent homeschool curriculum I have seen and the least Americo-centric, though American history is certainly covered and covered well.
I am starting to use it this year with my dd 9 for the first time. It is aimed at ages 10 to 18, but a bright 9 year old could tackle all but the most challenging assignments. My older children loved it and I am confident dd 9 will too. I think it provides an excellent education, and once familiar with the programme, you could easily design your own lessons and rabbit trails along similar lines if you so chose.
Hth! Jane.
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Where is the best place to purchase this? I'm considering it for next year for Sarah, though, I'm not yet sure what we'll use. But I'd like to put in the *to consider* folder in my favorites. 
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It looks from my search that Our Father's House is the only place to purchase this? I've put that site into my favorites. If you know of any others, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Julia Fogassy who owns Our Fathe's House wrote it...I think she is the sole distributer.
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Donna Marie from NJ
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Donna Marie wrote:
Julia Fogassy who owns Our Fathe's House wrote it...I think she is the sole distributer.
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Donna Marie is correct. Our Father's House is the ONLY place you can get it (other than used on a swap board of course ).
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ETA: never mind! I found my error... It's My Father's World that I keep getting and it is not Catholic and not to be confused with Our Father's House!
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Jane,
I'm really glad you gave your opinion because I knew my version was an early field trial version - level B was not done and level A has gone through some major revisions since mine. I remember talking with Julie Fogassy when we used the material and she agreed it was not appropriate for high schoolers - had completely avoided the French revolution and other things. She indicated she was working on another version available for older dc - it just didn't come out in time for my older dc. Then I just moved on to other things as I couldn't wait any longer. Glad to hear such good reviews on it - I may be looking at it again for some of my others for as well. What are the book recommendations like in the newer version - do they tend to be highly secular? Does she make use of a lot of Bethlehem books?
I'd be very interested to hear from people who have used her material for older children since the revisions came out. I really, really loved her map work and map tests and plan to use her material with other things. I might consider using her material again with my highschoolers if I hear more about the high school program from those who have used it.
Currently, I am using RC history for ancient history and it is OK too. But I want a bit more weaving in of secular history and more map work. I tend to be a pick and choose from a bunch of different programs.
One advantage of both ABCs and RC History is that they can be used with multi ages at once. I have yet to develop that technique (working in a group - one of the main reasons I never bothered to get my secondary education certificate - I just cannot work with more than one or two people at once. I'm more of a tutor than a classroom teacher, so I have not been able to take full advantage of this aspect of either program. I'd love hints from folks who teach a bunch of ages at once, I just cannot seem to get the hang of it even with programs designed to be used that way.
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