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We are getting to the Reformation and I was wondering if there is any good resources to teaching about it. I have All Ye Lands and would read the chapter on the Renaissance and Its Consequences that covers the Reformation. That might just be enough but I was wondering if you ladies have discovered something better.
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Natalia,
Teaching the "reformation" era was a HUGE bug-a-bear for me, espcially vis a vis Martin Luther. Something that I found to be a tremendous asset when studying this period was the Jackdaw Packet on Martin Luther. Jackdaw packets provide about a half-dozen highly informative summary sheets about different aspects of the subject under discussion, plus a variety of primary documents (copies, obviously). Now, while I am the first to tell you that Jackdaw can be outrageously PC, in this case, their striving backfired on them. With Martin Luther, they tried SOOOO hard to just give the facts, that they actually succeded in providing a fairly well-balanced compendium of material on him. As you know, all the standard texts either mis-represent him (if they're secular) or lionize him (if they're Protestant). This does neither. Obviously, there are fine Catholic books available on the subject, but none was appropriate to my student age group at that time. Fortunately, I found the Jackdaw packet to be just what we needed: age-appropriate, interesting and a very helpful addition to our study of the Protestant Revolt. One of the best things in it was the copy of the Theses he pinned on the door of Wittenburg Cathedral, plus the translation. Reading his complaints, you wonder what all the brou-ha-ha was about, when the Catholic church never taught as doctrine the things he was bellyaching about! Jackdaw also provides a booklet of vocabulary, discussion-provoking questions, ideas for projects and reading and so on. One of our all-time favorite History Activities---thanks to this Jackdaw---has been making Wanted Posters for Martin Luther. We had so much fun with this, that we ended up doing them on Jan Huss and John Calvin, too.  You would NEVER find activities like that suggested in a standard text book! The negative of Jackdaw is the price: $40 (ouch). However, I found it to be a huge time saver as well as an erudite resource-- so for me, it was worth it. Highly recommended.
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Kelly, many thanks for the enormously helpful review.
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Thaks Kelly! What age group were you teaching when you use the Jackdaw packet? I have a 12 and 8 yo.
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Natalia,
My big kids were 11 and 14. They were the ones I used the Jackdaw with the most. However, my younger ones were 5, 7 and 9 and they participated. I read bits of it, simplified it as I went along, they looked at pictures. I *DID* use the SOTW coloring sheet of Martin Luther hammering his theses on the Cathedral-read them SOME of that---SUPER heavily edited---provided mixed up numbers and had them find the digits that comprised 1517 and paste them in order, xeroxed photos of Wittenburg Cathedral and had them color them, made timeline cards. They dictated about the incident. The big kids wrote biographies. We all participated in the Wanted Posters exercises. That really was fun. It felt so naughty!
The Jackdaws come in two flavors: a highschool version and a middle school version. Some subjects are available in both, most are available in highschool version, a few in both. However (adn this is a big however...) DON'T waste your money on the middle school version. I've made the mistake twice and they were so silly. I don't know that the option of HS or MS version was available for Martin Luther, I think there was only the hs edition, so you don't have to worry. Just a headsup.
Jackdaws are available for many historical periods. My experience has been that the topics pre-1500s are great, after that, some are problematic. For modern era, they tend to be excedingly PC. If you have questions on specific ones, feel free to email me---we've used many of these in our history studies, some ARE better than others.
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JackDaw Martin Luther
I'm assuming the above link is the one that you're speaking of. Thank you, Kelly for the review. I've never heard of Jackdaw. I wish I could be more sure about which others were good and which aren't, as they do look very interesting.
Maybe we'll use this one though for religion and history. It sounds fascinating!
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Tracy,
That's the one. However, I notice the price has gone up 
We've done a lot of Jackdaws. Off the top of my head, the ones we've enjoyed the most (and that have bugged me the least!) have been: The Crusades; The Black Death; Martin Luther; the Armada. We're currently doing "The Mayflower & the Pilgrim Fathers" and it's pretty good. The only real washout has been the Columbus Jackdaw. For Columbus, I'd go with Leek's "Evangelization of the New World" instead-cheaper and much better, IMHO.
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Thank you, Kelly!
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Rainbow Resources sells them for 38.50 in case you are interested Tracy.
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Kelly,
I have not heard of Jackdaw before. It looks very interesting. We are studing early American History. Have you used any of the packets for this time period? Would you recommend or not recomend any of them?
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Thank you! I've heard of Jackdaws before but had no idea what they were. I was just asking around on another loop for good Martin Luther resources and this looks like exactly what I'm looking for.
Does anyone have suggestions for Calvin and Henry VIII? I am hoping to cover these two people at the same time, especially since Calvin is still soooooooooo influential in protestant theology.
Also, are there any good sources for covering the counterreformation?
I have to admit, I am a bit nervous about covering the whole "sale of indulgences" thing. I have read about it several times now, but I still don't entirely understand indulgences myself (convert).
Thanks again!
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Bookswithtea wrote:
I have to admit, I am a bit nervous about covering the whole "sale of indulgences" thing. I have read about it several times now, but I still don't entirely understand indulgences myself (convert).
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Maybe this link would help clear things up for you. It helped me.
http://www.catholicexchange.com/clibrary//document.asp?categ ory_id=72&document_id=223
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Laura,
Re: your question about Jackdaws and early American History. We're actually using three Jackdaws currently for the Colonial and then, Revolutionary period of American History. The ones we have are: the French and Indian War; Mayflower and the Pilgrim Fathers; and "American Revolution". They're all pretty good. They also have several on the making of the Constitution, but I haven't gotten that far, yet .
With the Jackdaws, we're also using the Brown Paper School series on the American Colonies and the American Revolution-primarily for the younger set.
Supplementary reading for the older children in the "America Is Born" book by Gerald Johnson and portions of the Hakim books, "History of US". I have my beefs with that one, but it's easy to expurgate the text as necessary!
But back to your original question about Jackdaws, yes, they are pretty decent for Early American History, though they don't include much (or anything, really) about Catholics in Early American history. To supplement that void, we've been listening to the Anne Carroll lecture series on Catholics in America. The first cd especially is very good, about the founding of Maryland, John Carroll and so on. There is also some good info in the "America is Born" book. I noticed that the Brown Paper School series doesn't mention anything about Catholics in the colonies (Pilgrims, Puritans, Anglicans, Quakers, Jews, and the Dutch protestants, but nothing about the Spanish Catholics in Florida!)...oh well.
Hope this helps!
Kelly in FL
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Bookswithtea wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions for Calvin and Henry VIII? I am hoping to cover these two people at the same time, especially since Calvin is still soooooooooo influential in protestant theology.
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We just watched a pretty good series on Henry VIII on PBS a few weeks ago. We'd seen part of it last year (dh and I only) and when it came on recently, ds12 showed much interest in it, even though we haven't covered any of that period of history yet, and he'd only had Amer. history, over and over, in ps. I was surprised but he watched all 4 hours of it. PBS often has videos of their shows for sale.
The Six Wives of Henry VIII
hope that link works. It's pricey though! but you might find it at the library, and I'm sure it will be shown again at some point.
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I will second, heartily, the PBS special on the "Six Wives of Henry VIII". When I asked my ds what resources we used in studying Henry VIII that he liked the best, he answered without hesitation: "The PBS movie on the Six Wives of Henry VIII" He said he learned and retained more from that than anything else.
After watching the movie, and reading about each wife and what was going on in Henry VIII's life, AND watching "Man for All Seasons" (another must-see)about Henry's former good buddy, St.Thomas More, I then had my older children make a "scrapbook" about Henry VIII. They had a lot of fun with this, and learned quite a bit in the process.
My dd also did a scrapbook on Mary, Queen of Scots. This, of course, brought in Elizabeth as well, and her anti-Catholic sentiment, as well as Jean Calvin, who used to lecture Mary incessantly to the point of tears. What a dreary man.
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Oh my goodness! I totally forgot about this resource. I've saw this leat year, and I was completely engaged by it. I loved that they portrayed Catherine of Aragon as a holy woman who just wanted to do what was right. Henry sure didn't come off looking very good, did he?
Hmmmmmm...that just leaves Calvin...What I am hoping to impress upon ds is that Calvin was not just the "systematic theology guy" but also a tyrant. Thats the part that just never seems to make it into young adult biographies of him.
I'm going to try to show ds that everyone viewed religion and authority differently then...we have some sad moments with the Crusades and the Inquisition (overblown, of course), but Calvin had people hanged, Luther gave over people to rioting peasants, the Puritans have the Salem Witch trials, etc etc...Its hard to understand history without context.
I wonder...are there any good resources on the Orthodox/Prot. split? We are getting close to covering that, too, in our history this year.
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Re the Henry VIII video, which one are you talking about? It seems that there are different versions around. Our library doesn't have The Six Wives, they have Henry VIII a video from Warner Home videos. But if I find out the specifics maybe I could get it through Interibrary loan.
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Natalia wrote:
Re the Henry VIII video, which one are you talking about? It seems that there are different versions around. Our library doesn't have The Six Wives, they have Henry VIII a video from Warner Home videos. But if I find out the specifics maybe I could get it through Interibrary loan.
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The link I originally posted was to the DVD on the PBS site, but it's apparently out of stock. This linkSix Wives of Henry VIII is to the VHS version.
Our library's ILL doesn't extend to videos or audio CD's either, and now they've also removed all the regular kids' videos at the local branches, due to high rates of theft! I hope you can get it thru ILL!
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Thanks Karen! My library does do ILL for videos but it might take a long time to get them.
BTW, I also found some good articles on the Reformation here. They were good background information for me.
Natalia
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