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Hi all
I've been using RSM for over a year with much success for my 3 kids. (ages 6, 6, 5) However, one son who is borderline ADD and diagnosed Asperger's is really having a hard time retaining the info and applying. Yesterday it took me 3 hours to go through one lesson with him! (Level B) And that was adding 10 to numbers. He cannot focus. Is there something better for this child out there? He dreaded math workbooks last year. (we used Abeka). He seems to have loved RSM more (very few crying spells) but we're still hitting a brick wall......
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I am using more of a living math approach with my youngest. I don't have anything official but I have my suspicions that she might be thought of as ADD. She is not at all ready for a formal program. I use RightStart (I think that is what you are referring to by RSM) with my oldest two but knew that M. would not be handle to it. So I use RS as a guide to know what things we should work on and then I do it from a living math approach (games, storybooks, activities.)
This is working out fairly well for us. Also, we only do math for maybe 15 min. if I am able to get her to sit still for that long. Even if I don't get through what I have planned, we end at 15 min. or else we would both be getting grumpy. 
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I second the living math approach at least for the younger ages. Are you familiar with this approach and the Living Math website?
Massachusetts has a list of math literature by grade. North Carolina has various resources by grade.
We have been using MEP for 2 years now. My oldest (age 11) likely has attention and/or processing challenges. MEP has work well for him for several reasons, first of which is that each lesson has multiple short problems that vary greatly from one another.
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I had no idea of either of these approaches to Math since I saw RSM (yes Right Start Math) at a curriculum fair years ago and fell in love with it at first sight....
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 I know! I did not realize we had been persevering that long.....we lost track of time....he did have a 1/2 hour bathroom break....my one consolation is at least he wasn't in tears and I was not losing patience throughout the whole process
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Shiller math, perhaps?
http://www.shillermath.com/sm/home.php?src=index.htm
We use it some along with Singapore. Now that I have gone through a few levels if a concept isn't sinking in for ds or dd, I can go back to some Shiller lessons or songs and try to help that way.
I used it by itself for 3rd grade for ds. Short, varied lessons and fun in the younger levels.
I did find it needed some supplementing with math facts.
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AtHomeScience wrote:
We have been using MEP for 2 years now. My oldest (age 11) likely has attention and/or processing challenges. MEP has work well for him for several reasons, first of which is that each lesson has multiple short problems that vary greatly from one another.
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Oh my....I LOVE the look of MEP! I downloaded some pages for today.....I'll have to do more research into next year....not sure where to start them!
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Are you using the RS games a lot? Whenever things got to intense for my dd or she wasn't getting a concept (which meant tears and frustration) we backed off the book and played the games a lot. I also used some "outside" manipulatives to help demonstrate - like in level B, dd had a really hard time getting place value. the cards and abacus boxes just weren't concrete enough, so I helped her make some mini-abacuses using chenille stems and pony beads - ten on each stem (2 colors) and then I put a stem on each end and attached the beaded ones. she ended up making at least 10 of these, and then that was a 1000 for her.
I also worked with pennies, dimes, dollars and $10 bills to show place value, laying it all out and having her exchange them.
Level B was a challenge for her but now she is doing really well in level C. I think taking our time in B really helped. She doesn't have any official diagnosis but she definitely has some ADHD type tendencies.
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I have to admit I have not used the games a ton. He does not seem to enjoy them. The other kids do. But he gets that defeated look before we begin. He does "get" the games though....
I think I am going to just take it slower. I tend to forget that the benefit of homeschooling is going at his own pace.....he, being a twin makes it a challenge and also he has a younger brother who IS a Math Whizz.
I realize though I know their differences and embrace them, unconsciously I still try to keep them at the same pace sometimes.... How to balance things so he does not realize he is "behind"? He already feels inferior a lot. That's the main reason I think I've tried to keep them mostly on the same page.
and I *feel* I must finish my syllabuses in the time alloted. So end of school year, we HAVE to finish B. I plan to go through Summer just with the Math since we can't afford to back slide and we are "way behind".
That being said I did print off some of the worksheets from the MEP program and they are all enjoying those....really enjoying....more so than any of the other work books I have tried. (ex Abeka). So I think I'll throw those in there for fun. I still prefer RSM in theory though.
(BTW Sorry, I am sure I have messed up quite a few English rules with some of these long winded sentences, but I'm focussing on Math, not English right now )
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My younger ds is very ADHD and cannot tolerate medicines. We keep math to 10 minutes at a whack. So maybe we'll do math twice in one day, but it is short and effective. Lots of games, drills, songs, and Math U See. That has really helped a lot. Also, lots of just bringing to my son's attention anything that we are doing that is math-related. Just talking through it, as in paying for something at the store, I'll just speak as I pay, or measuring things for cookies, whatever. It prob. makes me sound dumb, but I'm sure it helps him soak it in.
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I wanted to add that Level B usually takes more than a year to complete. I think it's late 1st grade/early 2nd grade level, so 6yo may be on the young side.
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