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I hope this isn't too much like a poll question, but I'm curious to know if anyone is using Singapore (any level) or Miquon or both together??
My dd will be finishing the last book of Miquon this year and is ready for something quite a bit more challenging and I'm inclined to go straight to Singapore Math as it seems a good match. We do lots of math games and love the Anno's books. I have yet to look at the Pappas books, but have them on my wish list.
Hope someone else can benefit from this new topic, and I have been so enjoying all of the other great topics too!
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Hi Meredith,
I have used Singapore with both my daughter (11) and son (7). I really
like it. I think is challeging and it teaches them how to think and do a lot
of mental math.
Last year we tried combining Singapore ane Miquon with my ds but he
hated it so I dropped it and continued just with Singapore. The only
criticism I have for Singapore is that it doesn't drill much so I have
supplemented here and there with math facts sheets and computer
games but nothing too consistent. I used to worried that my dd wasn't
fast at her math facts when she was in lower grades but we stuck with
Singapore and she knows her facts well now. So maybe the drill is not as
necessary as I thought.
We have used some of the supplements for SM and I highly recommend
the challenging word problems series.
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Hi Meredith,
We've used use Singapore Math for about 3 years now. I really like it. This year we switched to the US edition, which includes American measurements and money, so you don't have to supplement in those areas any longer. I used Miquon for a semester when my oldest was in 1st grade, but didn't care for it much. I find that by 3rd grade or so, the Singapore program takes all our time to finish a grade level in a year, so I wouldn't recommend supplementing with too much else. Oh, and we've enjoyed the Singapore cd-roms Rainbow Rock and Vroot and Vroom as well.
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Hi Meredith,
I use Miquon along with MCP Math in the early grades: Miquon for the conceptual stuff, MCP for the drill/reinforcement (we don't use every page or go in strict order at those lower levels). We haven't used Singapore. My older kids have used some of the Key to... series published by Key Curriculum Press which publishes Miquon. I'm impressed with them at least for the kind of child who needs step by step teaching.
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Wow, thanks for the fast responses, isn't this board so fun to negotiate around 
I am wondering about the US version, is this the one sold by Sonlight or do you go through another source?? I'm thinking my ds-6 will probably want to jump right into the Singapore also. Did you have any trouble with the levels being too high or were they fairly accurate for your children??
Thanks again for all your responses, keep 'em coming!
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happyheartsmom wrote:
| I am wondering about the US version, is this the one sold by Sonlight or do you go through another source?? I'm thinking my ds-6 will probably want to jump right into the Singapore also. Did you have any trouble with the levels being too high or were they fairly accurate for your children?? |
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I'm not sure what Sonlight offers now. I think I ordered from them the first year I used Singapore, but I've ordered from Rainbow Resource every year since. They have just about every option Singapore offers, I think. And their prices are always great.
I think I had heard that Singapore was a semester ahead of typical US math programs, so I did the second half of 1st grade, and both the first and second half of 2nd grade in one year with my oldest. Doing 3 semesters worth of work in one year was not a problem at that age. I think I remember it being worth going back a semester. I am just realizing that this is actually our 4th year of using Singapore, not the 3rd as I believe I wrote in a previous post.
Anyway, hope that helps some.
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Yes, Sonlight sells the US version. That is where I bought ours.
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We are using Miquon for the fourth time right now. We have found that it works very well for our kids. We do supplement from time to time when they need more practice with a particular concept. We have always gone from Miquon to Saxon, but my kids hate Saxon. My oldest (an honors math student in "building school") claims to have "Post-Traumatic-Saxon-Disorder" 
This year, we switched to using the University of Chicago Mathematics Project Algebra textbook. We are moving slowly and it will probably take us two years to get through it, but it is working fine for the boys. It includes some basic computer programming and use of spreadsheets, which is very nice. I admit that I was clueless about how my spreadsheet program worked until I sat down with the boys to play around with it!
What I'd *really* like is something that is more "natural learning" style. Math can be so fun, but so often the textbooks and the drill make it sheer drudgery  The problem is how to create a program like that and still cover the "scope and sequence" that they need to learn.
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My 7yo just started the blue Miquon book (after completing orange and red), and he loves math! I really like the way Miquon works. It seems so simple, but it is deceptive. It encourages an understanding of how numbers work and interact, which I think is so cool. My husband calls me a nerd when I say things like that! The downside of Miquon is that it has very little in the way of teaching help, so if you are a bit math-phobic, or were short-changed math-wise in school, it might not be for you.
I have also seen Singapore, and intended to use it with Miquon, because I did like it. I decided, however, that with math it was better for me to do one program and stick with it, suplementing when needed with games.
Oh, one other thing. Miquon does not follow a traditional scope and sequence, and doesn't cover money. For me this isn't a problem, but others prefer to follow the school schedules more closely.
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This is our fourth year using Singapore and I like it, but I like the new Singapore programme, My Pals Are Here, even better. I only have one MPAH book so far (4B), but if that is typical it teaches in a gentler, more progressive way. The hardest parts are weeded out into Challenging Practice and Problem Solving sections at the end of each lesson.
Downside for those of you on the other side of the Atlantic is that there isn't an American version. Good for us, but not so good for you!
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Kathryn, I haven't seen this yet. Where do you pick up your Singapore books from in the UK?? I was planning on just ordering through Sonlight as I have a pretty large order for books going out soon. Let me know if you have a different source. Thanks.
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I would really be interested in hearing more about the Rainbow Rock. I saw it in the Sonlight catalog but I couldn't find any reviews about it. Is it engaging? A friend bought Quarter Mile Math and was disapointed when her children didn't like it because it wasn't very flashy...
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It's interesting to read people's evaluations about Singapore Math since I am a Singaporean, married to an American and living in United States. At least for now. So I basically went through the entire curriculum abeit that was quite a while ago. As my oldest child is only two, my comparison is based off my discussion with my husband about our two educational system. We are both engineers by training so math and science have been particularly interesting.
One thing you have to know is that there is a huge difference in scope and sequence compared to other American text. For example, coordinate graphs, statistics and probability is taught in the higher levels and not in the elementary grades. However, great emphasis is placed on thinking logically rather than memorization. Some people have said that there isn't enough drill. I can think that the reason for this is that in Singapore, there is overabundance of workbooks most parents purchase on top of the textbooks. It's actually quite crazy. However, if your kid knows it, he knows, and drills are only necessary for retention and speed.
At the end of it all, I found myself ahead of my American counterparts. Hope that much is reassuring.
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