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Posted: Feb 07 2005 at 2:50pm | IP Logged Quote guitarnan

MacBeth and all,

I'm not sure what the focus of this board really is, but I do love learning about other places and cultures! I'm trying to put together some booklists about particular countries and cultures. For March, I was thinking of Ireland; I have most of Tomie dePaola's wonderful books, but could use some other ideas, not just about saints but also about modern Ireland. (I lived there for a semester in the 1970's!)

Also, I've lived in Italy and am looking for more books about that country. None of my three library systems has Papa Piccolo (ILL, here I come!), but I'm hoping some other members have read some good books about Italy. Again, I've got most of the dePaola books and love them dearly.


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Posted: Feb 07 2005 at 4:54pm | IP Logged Quote ladybugs

Hi Nancy in Almost Heaven,

Jim Weiss has on tape or CD, Celtic Treasures. I have it but we haven't listened to it...big help, huh...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882513231/qid =1107816825/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/103-7216820-90862 57?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

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Posted: Feb 07 2005 at 6:35pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

I'll also be pulling out our Ireland goodies for March. I have some really fun Irish music, some videos, and other misc. stuff. Our family loves to celebrate our Irish heritage and use every March as an excuse to eat irish soda bread and other fun things I was raised with in Scranton, PA...home of one of the largest St. Patty's Day parades in the US .

Hey mamasita Maria...do you have any Irish blood? How about you, Nancy?

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Posted: Feb 07 2005 at 8:33pm | IP Logged Quote guitarnan

Angie,

I tell everyone I'm "not Irish enough to claim", which means that I am less than 1/8 Irish. My grandmother's mom was a Dempsey, that's as close as I come. However, I lived near Dublin for a semester in high school and fell in love with Ireland. I even came home speaking with an Irish accent (sadly, now gone!). This summer we spent a week in Co. Donegal, and got to Northern Ireland for the first time. It was a great trip.

Anyway, I truly believe that Ireland is full of the friendliest people! I'd forgotten how welcoming and talkative everyone was...it's just great. I adore Irish music (dh is trying to learn to play the bodhran, to go with his singing and my guitar). I wish there were dancing classes here, so dd and I could learn Irish dancing together, but, well...

I'd love to find some good living books about Ireland and Irish-Americans. We're heading to Boston in May for a week; it would be nice to have read something to the children about Irish-Americans before then.

Thanks!

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Posted: Feb 08 2005 at 5:50pm | IP Logged Quote ladybugs

http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=94&art_id =27400

An article about investing in Ireland...

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whose family tree includes a McCaffrey from County Tyrone

Erin Go Bragh!

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Posted: Feb 09 2005 at 5:34pm | IP Logged Quote MacBeth

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whose family tree includes a McCaffrey from County Tyrone

Erin Go Bragh!

Hey Maria!! The MacBeth's landed in Tyrone from Aberdeen (Scotland), and married the well-established Martins! Up Tyrone!

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Posted: Feb 09 2005 at 5:46pm | IP Logged Quote ladybugs

The MacBeth's landed in Tyrone from Aberdeen (Scotland), and married the well-established Martins! Up Tyrone![/QUOTE]

It's a small world after all...

My maternal great grandparents came to Quebec from County Tyrone and Marseilles, France - it was my great grandmother who was Susan McCaffrey...my great grandfather's last name was Grise but everyone called him "greasy" so that got changed to Gray...My grandmother was from Portsmouth, New Hampshire and my grandmother's ENTIRE family but her children are still in Canada and the East coast...but I must say I've only been to La Guardia airport one August back in 1989 and to Richmond, VA in 1994 for 10 days...I was born in Venezuela and have lived in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands among other places, but I've never been to the Big Apple....

Anyway, MAJOR digression, eh...I'm just chatty and batty...

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my great grandfather's last name was Grise but everyone called him "greasy" so that got changed to Gray


OK. My great grandfather was "grampa Gray." But goodness, our family is not nearly so well travelled as yours!   Could we be related, Maria???

Books on Ireland:

The Ruby Ring Series (starts modern, but time travel takes each character back in Irish history):
Ruby Ring series

Please forgive my spelling. Without a spell checker I am exposed!



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[quote] my great grandfather's last name was Grise but everyone called him "greasy" so that got changed to Gray


OK. My great grandfather was "grampa Gray." But goodness, our family is not nearly so well travelled as yours!   Could we be related, Maria???


Oh my, MacBeth! That's amazing! Could it be possible - I mean to be from the same county in Ireland and then for you to have Grampa Gray?" That's really interesting!

The only reason we travelled alot was because my dad was from Venezuela - he met my mom when she was living in Colorado. They married, moved back to Venezuela - and poof! a couple years later, I was born. A year later, my sister was born...then we moved to California - where interestingly enough, my dad worked for Bechtel at the same time my dh's dad worked there (although they never met), then we moved to Puerto Rico, back to CA, Ohio, Indiana, Texas, the Virgin Islands, Texas and finally California. I have totally AWESOME memories of snorkelling every weekend and going out on boats. For the longest time, I wanted to be an oceanographer - however, God had other plans....I'm so landlocked here in Sacramento! LOL! Sure we've got rivers and the delta but it doesn't compare to the Caribbean.

I've been to Hawaii 3x and while it's beautiful there, the Caribbean has my heart...

Well, I got to sleep in till 8:30 am, so I better get the day going!

Wouldn't that just be amazing if we're related?

WOW!

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The only reason we travelled alot was because my dad was from Venezuela


Now if that doesn't sound silly....my dad was a petroleum and chemical engineer...that's why we traveled...duh...

See, I need coffee...

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Posted: Feb 11 2005 at 5:25pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

I wish that I knew more about my heritage. Growing up, no one around me was very interested in talking about our past...makes me wonder . My maiden name is Mulherin and I know that Great Grandpa Mulherin came over as a little boy with his mother fleeing poverty (Great Potato Famine perhaps?) His eventual wife had a wonderful Irish accent that I remember from my early childhood annual visits to Buffalo, NY. My mother's maiden name is Kelly. My husband's mother was Flynn. Dh was told the McIntyre's were from Ireland but then we heard rumblings that they were actually from Scottland and when they came to the US, it was better to be from Ireland than Scottland...hmmm? Maybe someday I'll have time to learn more about our family heritage. In the mean time, I'm glad to connect to Ireland beyond the green beer and St. Patty's day parade that I grew up with...although both hold their rightful place of honor in my memories of youth .

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Posted: Feb 15 2005 at 7:10pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

http://www.usccb.org/movies/irish.htm

Movie suggestions for celebrating St. Patrick's Day from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

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Top Of The Evening,

My family has alot of Irish and some Scottish blood. I wanted to put my girls in Irish dance classes, but they were to expensive and to far away... We did find a great Scottish dance teacher, and now the girls perform with a group of Highland dancers. It never fails that people assume that they are Irish dancers. The girls really enjoy Scottish dancing! MacBeth, do you have any suggestions for good Scottish music? Thanks!

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The girls really enjoy Scottish dancing! MacBeth, do you have any suggestions for good Scottish music? Thanks!

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Oh, lots! Libby is currently playing Bruch's Scottish Fantasy. That's gorgeous (we have recorded the intorduction and first movement in live performance, if anyone would like a CD ).

I love _Crossing to Ireland_ and others by Abby Newton (a Scottish cellist), and anything by the Scottish Fiddle Orchestra, like The Fiddler's Dance.

Click here for a link to Abby Newton.

I hope this helps.



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(we have recorded the intorduction and first movement in live performance, if anyone would like a CD )


Yes, I would like a CD! And please throw in Libby's Christmas recordings too... I've been meaning to ask for these since Christmas!   

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Hi MacBeth,

Thanks for the music suggestions! How can we get a copy of the CD?

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Thanks for the music suggestions! How can we get a copy of the CD?

Send me your address and I'll burn you a copy. It's only about 7 minutes for the intro and 1st movement--it's a slow movement, and very sad.

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A few good book recommendations:

I Saw Our Lady by Tom Neary, published by the custodians of Knock Shrine, Co. Mayo, Ireland. Our homeschool is named after Our Lady of Knock, an apparition of Our Lady to a group of Irish people on August 21, 1879. The story of Knock has always fascinated me, and a dear friend of mine (Caroline of CCM) gave me a copy of this book as a gift. "I Saw Our Lady" is not only a fascinating account of the apparition itself, but so much more. The book contains poetry (both original and old), photographs, history, newspaper accounts from the time of the apparitions, political cartoons, letters, prayers, and the actual words of the seers. At least one of the poems is written in Gaelic, and while I cannot understand much of it, there is something stirring even in the look of those words, whether or not I can decipher them. "I Saw Our Lady" is an unassuming little book, but it gives a lively, memorable, and sincere account of a moment in history that I enjoyed very much.

Hibernian Nights by Seumas McManus. This book of Irish Fairy Tales is not entirely for kids, but several of the stories are laugh-out-loud hilarious. It is out of print, but do pick it up in the library if you can. The girls were a bit frustrated with me when I broke down in peals of laughter every few sentences while attempting to read it aloud. (I needed to edit out a few parts I thought were too mature for the girls.)

The King of Ireland's Son by Padraic Colum is a perennial favorite. My father read this book aloud to the children a few years ago. I think they may be due to hear it again.

The Darby O'Gill books (Darby O'Gill and the Good People and Darby O'Gill and the Crocks of Gold) by Herminie Templeton Kavanagh are a fun read. They are published by Sophia Institute Press.

Irish Fairy Tales and Legends by Una Leavy (10 excellent Irish folk tales--with a pronunciation guide!).

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Breastplate of St. Patrick itself. In a perfect world, I would recite this prayer every single morning.

The Frank Patterson Faith of Our Fathers CDs are perfect and well worth purchasing. (Faith of Our Fathers, Religious Anthems of Ireland, Vol. I, II, and Christmas by Frank Patterson and others.) Each of my children has learned the Irish First Holy Communion hymn for her Communion Day--Caed Mile Failte romhat a Iosa (forgive me--I don't have time to check the spelling on this). Translated, it means "A Hundred Thousand Welcomes, Jesus." The Faith of Our Fathers CDs are becoming harder and harder to find since the death of Frank Patterson two or three years ago. It will be a shame if they go out of print.

As far as contemporary accounts of Ireland, we recently borrowed a few books on modern Ireland from the library, but none that jumped out at me as worth recommending. (Truthfully, they were a bit dull.) Ireland is such a vibrant country--surely there must be a readable, living book describing it as it is now.

God bless the Irish!

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alicegunther wrote:

As far as contemporary accounts of Ireland, we recently borrowed a few books on modern Ireland from the library, but none that jumped out at me as worth recommending. (Truthfully, they were a bit dull.) Ireland is such a vibrant country--surely there must be a readable, living book describing it as it is now.
God bless the Irish!


Dear Alice,

I had the same trouble when my teenage daughter wanted to dig into Irish history last year. I too wish there was a good living book on history of Ireland.    One that I read and enjoyed, but it is definitely for older people, was "How the Irish Saved Civilization". I forget the author. There was at least one part in it that I think I'd have to black out before I gave it even to a teenager.   But it was interesting to read.



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WJFR wrote:

I had the same trouble when my teenage daughter wanted to dig into Irish history last year. I too wish there was a good living book on history of Ireland.    One that I read and enjoyed, but it is definitely for older people, was "How the Irish Saved Civilization". I forget the author. There was at least one part in it that I think I'd have to black out before I gave it even to a teenager.   But it was interesting to read.


I have been pretty disappointed by so many Irish History or Irish Experience books, too. Either life was terrible because of alcoholism, or the books are full of things that I would black out for myself .

One idea is to find an Irish person to interview and ask the questions about the things you want to know. I guess that living in NY, especially near Queens, the most ethnically diverse place on the planet (true!!), has made finding out this information very easy. And while we may not all live here, I know that there are Irish folks on CCM (and maybe even here...) who might be willing to share a tale or two.

Anyone out there?

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