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Posted: Jan 15 2013 at 6:40pm | IP Logged Quote cheesehead mom

Are there any 4real kids at this San Diego Campus. We have been researching this for my high schooler. It is the only Catholic University (by that I mean those in line with the Magesterium) I can find with a dedicated film program. There are other schools offering communications programs but none seem to focus on digital media or film. Please let me know if anyone knows of any others. He is looking at secular schools too--and we are huge fans of no loans for college if possible--but he is concerned with the assignments he would get at a secular film/media school. Anyway, he is a junior and starting to ponder all of this. Thanks for any help.
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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 1:16pm | IP Logged Quote MaryM

As far as I know there are no 4Real kids there. Our closest connection is Erica who lives in San Diego and has friends from that local homeschool community who are there. I think she has said she would get interested people connected with them.

Re: other Catholic universities
One of my sons is a senior at Franciscan U. majoring in communications with his emphasis on film/video. So while they don't have that as a specific degree within the university, it is possible to tailor a specialty. They really do have a good program with access to really good production resources and opportunities. He has been doing a lot of video work and I know feels well qualified to go out into the workforce in the field. I'm sure he would be happy to talk with you or your son if you are interested in hearing more about what FUS can offer and his experiences.

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 2:07pm | IP Logged Quote stefoodie

I have a friend whose son goes there. I've contacted her and I'm waiting on a response. They're not 4real though, but they're part of our local homeschooling group and very Catholic :)

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 2:29pm | IP Logged Quote cheesehead mom

Thanks ladies for the info and if you get any more info please do PM me. My ds friend is attending FUS next year and is interesting in Tv/Radio but did not know much about their film emphasis. Talk scholarships/financial aid with me too Mary as we will not be able to contribute any real money toward college so he will need to work/save/get scholarships, ect. JP the great does sound like a great school but it is very specific in focus--so really if you changed your mind you would start over somewhere else--and there are few general ed requirements so hard to do junior college/CLEP/AP to get rid of some of those ahead of time.
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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 5:22pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

cheesehead mom wrote:
he is concerned with the assignments he would get at a secular film/media school. Anyway, he is a junior and starting to ponder all of this. Thanks for any help.


My daughter will graduate from Arizona State U in May from the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism. She/we also had similar concerns to yours as she headed into the hub of "liberal media" training. But she was/is very well received and respected in the program. The vast majority of her professors found her clear values and work ethic to be a breath of fresh air. She has had lively discussions of all sorts and held her own. So be not afraid! When looking for a skill-based degree, like journalism or film, often the bigger schools offer great learning opportunities plus a broad environment for each student to find their place.

Good luck!

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 6:38pm | IP Logged Quote cheesehead mom

Angie thanks for the response and that is defintely something I ponder. It is such an immoral industry though that it is a tough discernment as to how much they will have to stick up for themselves and how much it can get in the way of learning their craft. I am sure God will lead and I appreciate your input as I think--from previous posts you have made--you too are striving to get your kids through college debt-free if possible.

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Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged Quote Angie Mc

Laura, I've come to think that all industries have their moral and immoral factions. We take this all very seriously. Yet I can't deny that my daughter's experience has been exceptional and moral. I'll try to remember to ask her to write about her experience and maybe provide tips on how to discern a good fit for students in similar circumstances.

You are definitely on the right track! Be prayerful, hopeful, and trusting. You've got a great kid on your hands who has a gift to share with the world!

And you've reminded me. I'll bump my original post to encourage - we did it! This month we write our last check <- happy tears!

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Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 12:39am | IP Logged Quote MaryM

Laura, just clarifying what I shared on FUS - I called it film/video as I was referring to the medium of capturing images (verses film as feature films). FUS's video emphasis does work more with television and radio since that is what they have studios for. So they are really working with students to develop general skills in filming and writing - their practice will be tv/radio but can easily be applied to movie production for career as well. Some students from there have gone on to take the follow up instruction through ACT ONE to get a hand up in the actual film industry of Hollywood. So that is an option. I do think JPII the Great seems like an excellent choice if one is very sure, like you said, of what they plan to do. But if you do change your mind you don't have many other options for a major there, as you mentioned. So that would be a big consideration.

RE: money and scholarships. No, FUS doesn't have a lot of financial aid. He was offered less there in aid than he was offered from some other schools BUT their tuition and room and board are less than most other Catholic universities - and way less than many. Room and board is almost half of other Catholic universities we have experience with. That difference alone made looking at the potential cost between several Catholic schools almost balance out, even when they offered more in financial aid.

Finances are a big issue. I won't say it is easy.

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Posted: Jan 19 2013 at 1:29pm | IP Logged Quote Erica Sanchez

I would be happy to help connect those interested in JPII with families/students that attend. You could pm me with your email if you'd like.

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 1:14pm | IP Logged Quote BenW

Hi, everyone! I'm the son of a friend that stefoodie mentioned. I currently go to JPCatholic as a film student with an emphasis in producing. I've been granted temporary access to the forum in order to provide a student perspective to this thread. Let me know if you have any questions about the school and I'll try to answer them as best as I can!

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 1:54pm | IP Logged Quote cheesehead mom

Ben W--Thank you so much for your time. I will start things off with some questions from my son JP as well as myself.

1-What other schools did you consider and what made you decide on JPCatholic?

2-JPCatholic is a very small school. Unlike Steubenville or Ave Maria or even larger state schools there is no large Neuman Center. How would you desribe the campus ministry?

3-The costs of JPCatholic is high, though not as high as other private, small schools. Do many students have time to work outside of class or did you find that there were scholarships readily available?

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My dd has been accepted to JP for Fall 2013. It is absolutely her dream school. She and her bff make movies all the time. Currently they are in the middle of making a 2 hour one that they wrote themselves. Last summer, they entered one of their movies into the Life Fest Film Festival in Hollywood and even won an award!

BUT the price of this school is crazy lots, I feel. When my dd got her acceptance letter it included that her four year total would be $96,000. DD laughed. She doesn't think, and quite frankly we do too, that one should go into such extreme debt to go to a Catholic school when a public school (she also was accepted to VCU, we live in VA) is half the cost.

SO the very biggest biggest question for us...how are you paying for it? what are the job prospects awaiting you after graduation in order to pay back loans as the best we could see online, is that if you are lucky enough to get any sort of scholarship from JP, you wouldn't get more than $9K a year.

ps-curious about the housing? not dorms right, apartments that school helped you find? furnished?

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Hi, Laura, let me answer your questions in order.

1. I chose to apply to six schools in total:

     1) JPCatholic.

     2) Wright State University.

     3) Miami University.

     4) Hillsdale College.

     5) The University of Dayton.

     6) The University of Cincinnati.

2. The on-campus ministry is utterly fantastic! To be honest, I think that the real reason we don't have a Newman center is that it would be redundant. We have a chapel next to the library here that is always open for adoration. Every day we have mass in one of the classrooms, and on Fridays it's said in the Chaldean rite. Confession is offered after all masses. We have night prayers and the rosary every night in the common room. (If you have more specific questions about campus ministry, I'd be happy to answer them.)

3. Most students have jobs outside of class. Several work for the University, and others work for local businesses. A smaller set of students (including myself) do freelance work or start their own companies. We have an entire class about our careers and getting a job.


I hope that I've helped you with these answers. Let me know if you have any more!

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 5:34pm | IP Logged Quote KackyK

Ben you said you start your own company...are you getting work? Can you support yourself?

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 5:50pm | IP Logged Quote BenW

KackyK,

Yes, two other students and myself have started Radcom Studios (radcomstudios.com). We have been and are getting work, but we are still in the development stage, so I am not able to fully support myself from my income there. We fully expect that within the coming months, we will be able to support ourselves with it.

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 5:59pm | IP Logged Quote MaryM

Ben, it's great having you here and answering questions. Just wanted to make sure you saw the other post Kacky made earlier in the thread - she was posting at about the same time you posted first response. Those simultaneous posts are easy to miss.

KackyK wrote:
My dd has been accepted to JP for Fall 2013. It is absolutely her dream school. She and her bff make movies all the time. Currently they are in the middle of making a 2 hour one that they wrote themselves. Last summer, they entered one of their movies into the Life Fest Film Festival in Hollywood and even won an award!

BUT the price of this school is crazy lots, I feel. When my dd got her acceptance letter it included that her four year total would be $96,000. DD laughed. She doesn't think, and quite frankly we do too, that one should go into such extreme debt to go to a Catholic school when a public school (she also was accepted to VCU, we live in VA) is half the cost.

SO the very biggest biggest question for us...how are you paying for it? what are the job prospects awaiting you after graduation in order to pay back loans as the best we could see online, is that if you are lucky enough to get any sort of scholarship from JP, you wouldn't get more than $9K a year.

ps-curious about the housing? not dorms right, apartments that school helped you find? furnished?


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Thank you, MaryM. You're right. I didn't notice.

KackyK,
In response to your first message, I am paying for it with a combination of scholarships and student loans. Of course, when our company gets past the development stage, I hope to pay for school with that.

As far as job prospects go, if I wasn't involved with Radcom, I would probably be looking at getting a job as a production assistant. Nearly every career path in the movie industry has terrible pay once you start out, but after a certain point you can start making very good money. The problem is that it takes a while to get there.

We are housed in apartments that are owned by the school and are all in the same complex. There are 6-7 students in an apartment. No alcohol is allowed in the apartments at all. The apartments are segregated by gender and there is no inter-visitation. Each apartment is expected to create a "household" and goes to adoration together for one hour a week. The apartments are furnished.

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 6:57pm | IP Logged Quote KackyK

Thanks Ben, I thought we had cross posted!

My dd is interested in producing directing too. We had heard from VCU that the film kids who are making money right out of college are the union backstage types. However my dd tells me those positions tend to be dominated by men. She enjoys camera operating too.

Is JP more majority men, even mix? Where are you seeing most of the female majors?

Are a lot of grads going into grad school? There at JP or somewhere else?

We are a Pandoras box really over here with questions

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Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 7:27pm | IP Logged Quote cheesehead mom

KackyK-- Thanks so much for your input into this conversation it is very helpful. We too have a state school with a good film school for 9,000 a year and we will not be able to offer assistance to my son. Ben thank you too for your input especially on the spiritual life/dorm living situation. The other issue--besides money--that concerns me is the fact that the program is very specific so if a student decided to change paths they would really be starting over at a different school--vs a state school where general ed requirements would transfer. Thanks again Ben for taking the time to answer our questions. Very helpful in the discernment process.
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Posted: Jan 22 2013 at 12:16pm | IP Logged Quote Erica Sanchez

I don't think it has been mentioned, but maybe most know, that you are completing a four year education in three years. Correct, Ben? I then believe the tuition looks better on paper as you would be starting a career and making money earlier.

Also, I know that the Miles Christi priests say Mass and support the school and they are wonderful! We love them, especially Father Martin. And, our FSSP priests told me they were invited to say a Traditional Latin Mass there a week or so ago. One of our priests quite young and I thought a good fit for a college campus.



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