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Posted: March 09 2010 at 8:14am | IP Logged Quote JennGM

cathhomeschool wrote:
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Back to blank books:

I could see using the hard bound books for little ones that are pasting their finished art work into one thematic keepsake book (this is what we did with the Alphabet Path) but I think it would be difficult for older ones working directly in the book. My older two are making a book based on the human body and its systems. Thus, all their drawings and essays are directly written in the main lesson book. The spiral bound ones would help, definitely something to consider.


We briefly tried main lesson books and it didn't work for us, so I don't have a good handle on what people are looking for here, but what about spiral bound art books? (Meaning spiral bound watercolor paper.) Would buying it at Hobby Lobby or Michaels when it's on sale or with a coupon be as economical as Bare books?


We must be thinking alike, Janette, because I posted a bunch of similar ideas above!

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I find so many options in journals and sketchbooks.

There are wire bound sketchbooks galore.

For watercolor wirebound pads.

And we're quite fond of our Mead Primary Journals for everything.


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Posted: March 09 2010 at 10:59am | IP Logged Quote Christine

Emmanuel Books sells hardbound blank books. You can also buy them at Michaels and Joanns with a coupon. We use one from one of these latter stores for our Book of Centuries (per Laura Berquist's recommendation). Laura Berquist recommends the ones sold by Emmanuel for recording memorized poetry each year. We have made our own poetry books with construction and computer paper.

Like Jenn, I also buy wirebound sketch books. The children use these for nature drawing or anything else that they want to draw. We used to use these in art classes in high school. They are great for containing and saving drawings. I still have mine. I don't know if Jenn mentioned that they can be purchased in various sizes.

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It is helpful but we, all of us, still need to be cautious and discerning on our own. [...]   Someone respected posts on an idea --people trust that a person has done the research and weeded out the bad stuff and they follow the advice and recommendations. Later they may come to find out that their view on what's OK doesn't really mesh with the person they were taking advice from and/or there's some problems and suddenly what looked OK to them really isn't.


This very thing happened to me, Michelle. I didn't adequately think through a decision I made because I just assumed that if so-and-so said it was okay for her family, it was okay for my family too. It wasn't okay for us, though it is great that it worked for her family.
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Posted: March 09 2010 at 7:08pm | IP Logged Quote cathhomeschool

JennGM wrote:
We must be thinking alike, Janette, because I posted a bunch of similar ideas above!


Awesome, Jenn! I thought I'd read all of the posts before mine, but I missed yours. I guess that's what happens when I read and then get distracted and come back to pick up where I *thought* I left off.      I was wondering if dickblick had these but didn't have time to check. We don't do main lesson books but we do use watercolor paper a lot.      

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Posted: April 07 2010 at 1:29pm | IP Logged Quote Eleanor

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Further research shows that Dixon Ticonderoga is a subsidiary of an Italian company, FILA-Group, who back in July of 2008 acquired Lyra Pencils as part of their company. Now for anyone who is not aware, Lyra Pencils are unquestionably linked with Waldorf education.

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Cindy, can you please explain this further?   

As far as I can tell, the only "link" is that Lyra makes high quality colored pencils, and Waldorf schools (along with many other customers) like to buy them.

Lyra has been making pencils and other stationery products since 1806, which is over 100 years before Waldorf existed.   I've seen nothing to indicate that the company has been owned by anthroposophists, or has promoted this philosophy. Perhaps this was the case at some point in the past (& my searches just aren't turning it up), but it doesn't seem to be the case as of 2008. As you mentioned, the Lyra brand name is now owned by FILA, a large Italian company whose only concern appears to be selling pencils.

Speaking of which.... I'm sad to note that FILA is planning to move all of Dixon and Lyra's production to China.   
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Posted: April 07 2010 at 2:18pm | IP Logged Quote guitarnan

Eleanor, my research results agree with yours. Lyra has been around for a very long time, producing award-winning pencils for artists, children and everyone in between. FILA S.p.A., Lyra's Italian parent, also makes art supplies and owns Dixon-Ticonderoga in the U.S. FILA contributes to Save the Children and partners with three museums in Italy, but those are the only charities they fund that I know of.

It's easy to find places to purchase Lyra pencils online. Two of my favorite places to buy art supplies are Dick Blick (they sell newsprint by the ream, which I love) and Amazon.com.

Thanks for the China info, too. I'd best stock up on pencils now!

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Posted: April 07 2010 at 3:22pm | IP Logged Quote Eleanor

Ah yes, Dick Blick... two little words that strike fear into my husband's heart.

The penciltalk.org site is fascinating. I never knew such a community existed. It's taking great restraint on my part to avoid going back there and diving right into the pencil aficionado subculture. But I think it will have to wait for a retirement hobby. (DH can take care of the sausage and string hoarding.)

BTW, Derwent has been my preferred brand of grown-up art pencils ever since I took a drawing class in my teens. I love their smeary graphite pencils... and the watercolor ones... and basically all of them. But I've never tried their children's colored pencils. I'm not even sure if they're available in North America.
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Posted: April 07 2010 at 3:46pm | IP Logged Quote stefoodie

my 2 cents:

we prefer derwent's durability (so far) over prismacolors, we've had prismacolors slipping out of their wooden barrels! the hues and vibrancy seem to be on the same level for the most part. but one thing i don't like about derwents -- a minor one -- is that the barrels are all the same color.... so the bottom or the point has to be exposed. can't plop them all into a pencil holder or bucket or jar.

thanks for the penciltalk website! ah, another site to drool over. if you're into fountain pens, once in a while it's fun to check out The Fountain Pen Network. right now, there are 20,608 topics on writing instruments!      

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Posted: April 07 2010 at 3:47pm | IP Logged Quote Servant2theKing

This website for U.S. made pencils may interest some of you:
http://www.generalpencil.com/gpc_buy_buyonline.html#schoolpe ncils

(Thanks to the link angel who created a link from the address I shared!)

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Posted: April 10 2010 at 9:09am | IP Logged Quote Eleanor

Thanks for the link! Looks like they have a full line of American-made art pencils. (Their gallery is fun to look at, too. Some of those portraits are amazing.)
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I was drooling over the graphite chunks. (Yes, I'm a frustrated geologist...)

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I was drooling over the graphite chunks. (Yes, I'm a frustrated geologist...)

Yea, no kidding, Nancy! Me too!

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