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Thank you that insight was very helpful, I'll also pass on to my friend she is rather overwhelmed.
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Maria B. wrote:
We used MODG Lit/Hist syllabi this year for 9th and 10th grade. It just was not enough and too dry for my girls. So, I am back to Sonlight. I used it for earlier grades and loved it. This discussion has been so interesting and informativie. Long story short, I am going to use Core 300 for my 10th grader. If anyone would like to share what they are going to supplement this with to make it Catholic (from Kolbe and MODG, etc.), I would love to see it. I also have a high schooler using the Civics/American Govt. from SL. Anyone else?
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Maria - have you checked the files on the SL-Catholic list? I went on this afternoon after ages - and there seemed to be a few files eg adding saints etc
(sorry - edited this so it was in the correct place!)
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Bookswithtea wrote:
Shari in NY wrote:
| For me it was Becoming Orthodox by Peter Gilquist and reading the copious notes John wrote in the Core 6 IG refuting the awful Bob Jones history text Sonlight was using at that time that tipped the scale to our converting! (Roman not Orthodox, by the way). |
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I thought this book was great, too, but didn't he convert to Orthodoxy? I read a lot of both Orthodox and Roman materials when we were praying/researching. At one point, we seriously considered Orthodox. |
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Yes, he did convert to Orthodoxy along with most of his Campus Crusade for Christ buddies. I thought we were heading in this direction too but God had other plans  !
Elizabeth is right that Core 200 is too much for most teens and very deep for adults for that matter. We didn't do Core 200. I just picked a couple of books from there to read for myself. I think it could be a good core if you have a lot of very devout Protestant relatives and you want your teen to know where thay are coming from, but overall I don't think it is appropriate for Cathiolic teens and not really worth the time. There are some very good Catholic apologetic books that would be easier and just as (if not more) informative from a Catholic prospective like the Beginning Apologetics books by Father Frank Chacon and Jim Burnham. These are short, stick to one topic and most important--don't overwhelm a teen.
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Maria B. wrote:
| We used MODG Lit/Hist syllabi this year for 9th and 10th grade. It just was not enough and too dry for my girls. So, I am back to Sonlight. I used it for earlier grades and loved it. This discussion has been so interesting and informativie. Long story short, I am going to use Core 300 for my 10th grader. If anyone would like to share what they are going to supplement this with to make it Catholic (from Kolbe and MODG, etc.), I would love to see it. |
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I went into our library closet with the Core 300 booklist and pulled every book we already had off the shelf to put aside for Patrick.If we don't have it, it's because I decided it was not appropriate last time or it's new since we last did 300. I think there were six or seven books.In those slots will go Chesterton and some saints' bios from the 20th century, including Witness to Hope. Not scientific, but it works for me!
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Maria:
Just now seeing your question. Unfortunately I put the e-mail somewhere safe for when I lesson plan for next year - a really dangerous move for me  and I have yet to find it. I probably stored it somewhere on the computer so it wouldn't get tossed and I cannot find it.
I do know that 11th goes from early Christian through 1600 with more emphasis on Byzantium. The Kolbe resources are collections of primary works in this period or early Christian lit.
The 12th year covers from 1600 to present day with more emphasis on U.S. history but covering other things as well. I haven't seen these plans yet, but will be enrolling for next year prior to April 30. I'll let you know.
In the meantime I'm desperately trying to find my notes from Kolbe for my own planning. If I find them, I'll share.
In general, Kolbe history takes a real in depth look at some excerpts of time in the period. Modern times in an excellent - but very thick book covering everything from the French revolution to Pope JP II. Obviously it is more of an overview/interpretation of history and primarily looks at the influences of modern thought on what is happening in the world.
One of the reasons that I substitute heavily in history with my own material is that my children would have trouble putting this in context. Kolbe plans for high school presume an in depth background in the time period covered (although their current notes provide more of the context and backgroung for what they do study, they do not have every period covered in depth - more like taking snapshots and being immersed in a particular, small subset of the period). Kolbe's approach is more of a in depth look at ideas than of the people and events (which they presume are already fairly well known). They have built the background all through the elementary and middle school years, so that this would not be a jump for someone following their program. However, my dc just need more of the overview still. They have added in more background in their notes but it is still not a complete linear summary of the period - not like a spine or anything. They are immensely helpful but not a stand alone in our house. They will address those ideas most important to a Catholic worldview which might make them an ideal supplement to whatever you do.
I also need to do a more systematic (and reachable) unit on government and the U.S. political system, so I add here. Mine just don't get it from the very heavy primary sources used.
Kolbe is quite generous in answering questions when you are pondering what to do so if I cannot find my material in a timely enough manner for you, then a call to Kolbe would probably give you what you need by way of information.
I'll keep looking cause I really need to start digging and planning for next year, myself.
Janet
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Martha in VA wrote:
Cay,
Which Scott Hahn CDs/DVDs do you intend to use?
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Dear Martha,
I knew I was asked this question somewheres and I apologize for bad timing. I know your thoughts and interests are on much more important things right now. 
But I didn't want to neglect answering...
Our church has a library full of Scott Hahn tapes. I plan to use whatever they have. I need to go one day and carefully select the ones appropriate for teenagers.
I'll try to remember to share the list when I have them in hand. Don't hesitate to remind me. 
Now, please enjoy that baby. We both know how quickly these years fly.
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Topic: Sonlight for High School
