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Posted: July 21 2008 at 3:08pm | IP Logged Quote JSchaaf

I want to start "something" to help dd8 document her history learning. I'm hoping to start something that will last for years, that she can add to as she wishes. Is a book of centuries just like a timeline, but in a notebook?   And what would a history "notebook" look like? And is all of world history in one volume and worked on over the next 8 years or so a realistic undertaking? Or should each years history work go in it's own notebook?
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Yes, a BOC is just a timeline in book form. These typically have pre-dated pages and children write in bits of info, pictures, etc on the appropriate page. A history notebook is a bit more flexible, as children can add in pages, articles, clippings, pictures, whatever. Some folks use templates for their pages and some folks leave it more open ended.
We have and use both a BOC for jotting down things as we come across them, and a history notebook, which ds adds to less often, but is a good collecting place for more in-depth work he has done on a topic.
Here is a picture from his BOC, which we purchased from Homeschool in the Woods:

And here are some sample notebook pages, which is just a three-ring binder with page protectors:

here are some finished pages waiting to be inserted into the notebook.

So you can see our notebook is more of a catch-all for things he has done that can't be put into the timeline.Other folks have more organized history notebooks than ours and I hope they will chime in as well.

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Posted: July 21 2008 at 9:57pm | IP Logged Quote sunny

wow this wasnt my question but I have been interested in starting some sort of timeline. Your response, Theresa was great! What a difference it makes to see the samples. Thank you for taking the time to add the photos.
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Ok, Theresa for days now I've been thinking, "Where can I find pictures of a timeline....does Theresa have hers somewhere?" Yippee! My question now is do you put 1 century on a 2 page spread?

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Posted: Sept 24 2008 at 12:13pm | IP Logged Quote folklaur

Theresa,
Do you like the HITW timeline books and figures?

I have looked at it many times - but hesitate becuz of the expense. But - is it worth it?

Will you have a separate book for your daughter or do they share?

At what age did you start the timelines?

for the notebooking pages - how much did you help when he started? How much did you supply (say for the knight - did you find the picture, or did he? How much did you suggest about the layouts of the pages? How much did he come up with on his own? Do you do any of the cutting out, etc, or is it all his own creation? my ds is just almost 10, and I never know if I am expecting too much or not enough....sigh....)


thanks and sorry about the many questions....

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Ooooh! Lots of questions!Let me give it my best shot!

I have the HITW book of the centuries, but not the figures. I did not get the figures because although it would be simpler to have the figures ready to insert, I thought it would take the creativity out of the process and turn it into basically a cut-and-paste routine.Plus, I did not want the pages to look all the same. I like variety. That's just me, though. And if we ever need pics, we just Google it and print one up, which is simple enough.

The number of years per page (scale?) changes throughout the book, with fewer pages for very ancient times and more for periods when more is going on (like revolutionary war period, WWII, etc), so you can add more detail there. I like that aspect very much, but you do have to pay attention to the scale when you are using it.

As for when we started: ds at about age 9 or 10. I'll get dd her own at about the same age.

The notebook: ds does it by himself, though I will often suggest things he could do or add, make suggestions as to layout and color, etc. But the final decisions are all his, and he does all of the cutting, labeling, word processing, and actual layout on his own. Depending on how he feels and what the topic is, some pages are more elaborate than others. The pics I showed were probably from about 5th or 6th grade? I guess I should get some more recent ones, right? Though he has been keeping up his timeline, he has not been doing much history notebooking lately. Most of his recent history work has been included within other topics such as science.

I hope that answers all of the questions. Let me know if I can help some more.



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The number of years per page (scale?) changes throughout the book, with fewer pages for very ancient times and more for periods when more is going on (like revolutionary war period, WWII, etc), so you can add more detail there. I like that aspect very much, but you do have to pay attention to the scale when you are using it.


Perfect, thank you.

My friend mentioned that if you print the Homeschool In the Woods figures on sticker paper, it is easy for the kids to use. I don't know the $$ of buying that paper.

I can see your point about googling images, though. I'm going to have to consider that although in my head having the disc sounds easier/faster. When we google images, we always seem to be looking for one that might be a little bit better.

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