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We're doing a literature and botany project this morning that I posted on my homeschool blog. (I'm sure this information is probably somewhere in a book or on the internet but I couldn't find it...)
I copied my post here:
My boys and I were reading Saint George and the Dragon retold by Margaret Hodges this morning. The illustrations are awesome and they became interested in identifying many of the trees and wildflowers throughout the book.
Anyone else want to play? Of course, you need to have the book....
Some that we *think* we identified are:
page 7 - some rose
page 8 Bladder Campion
page 11 - Blackberry
page 12 morning glory
page 15 - another wild rose??
page 16 - agrimony
page 19 - Wood Anemone/Wind flower
page 20 - English Hawthorn
page 22 she tells us it's an apple tree
page 23- Herb Robert
page 27 - Poppy
page 28 Chickory??
page 32 Thistle
Back cover:
Back cover - 5 petaled red flower
Back cover - trumpet-like blue flower
Back cover: English ivy off the house
Backcover: tulip in vase
We're still working on it, so we'll update if we find any others.
ETA: As we discover the answers, I'm trying to update with links to their picture.
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This is such a COOL connection,Maryan. I gave it a cursory look but don't have time to really study now as we are on our way to Mass. I hope Mrs. Botany will be able to help out since they are familiar with the plant families  .
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I am in...so funny, Botany in a Day is in the mail, we did some three part botany cards this morning and lo and behold St. George and the Dragon was the picture book I placed on my dresser to read!
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Thanks MaryM -- we're having fun. And...how funny Kristie! 
We're cheating and not doing a complete botanical identification -- my just about five year old is a studier of pictures, so he's just trying to match them from Botany in a Day.
Some of these flowers we have in a plethora around here, so that's why the boys think that's what they are (like wild black raspberries, thistle, morning glory, and chickory).
I'm confident in Poppy from my aunt's gardens.
But all the various rose looking drawings????
We're out for most of the day visiting my sisters, so hopefully tomorrow we can figure out some more!
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That is such a great idea, Maryan! I wish I had the book so we could join you!
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lapazfarm wrote:
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Me too!! That is the drawback with this project -- it's not as if this is a book everyone owns!
Yesterday, we marked several roses that we think are possibilities and we're going to see if we can figure it out tomorrow.
The yellow flower on page 16 is still really bothering me because I know I know that flower... the boys are claiming it's the "weed" blooming now around our driveway... but I think they're incorrect. And either way, we don't know the name of it.
But tomorrow we're going to pick it and compare the two... and look at Botany for a Day for more comparisons!!
Having so many wildflowers around here helps the ID process.
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I just was looking at the pages. I can't help with exact ids, but was thinking that some of the flowers reflect what subject is on the page. Like the blackberry the text mentions the thorns.
And the yellow flowers I think is an herb used for healing. Same with the red berries -- somethign to do with blood or healing wounds?
Just thinking out loud.
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Oh Jenn that's great! I didn't even make that connection. That should help figure it out!
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I went the route of trying to find flowers common in the Bristish Isles as that is my understanding of Margaret Hodges using those in the borders.
So I think the tall yellow flower is rapeseed (the plant we get canola oil from). Is it goldenrod your boys see around your place - it's tall and yellow and very common in US?
The tree with berries - probably English Hawthorne.
White flower page 19 - maybe Camellia.
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Even better, Mary! I was thinking that, also, that they were English flora.
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Oh, we don't have many wildflowers right now- we have 3 inches of new snow.... 
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MaryM wrote:
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I'm correcting this to say that I think the one on page 30 is Camellia. I didn't have th ebook in front of me when I posted earlier.
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I just was looking at the pages. I can't help with exact ids, but was thinking that some of the flowers reflect what subject is on the page. Like the blackberry the text mentions the thorns.
And the yellow flowers I think is an herb used for healing. Same with the red berries -- somethign to do with blood or healing wounds? |
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I was thinking something similar - I had been reading the text trying to see if I could get clues. There must be something there though it's pretty obscure.
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MaryM wrote:
So I think the tall yellow flower is rapeseed (the plant we get canola oil from). Is it goldenrod your boys see around your place - it's tall and yellow and very common in US?
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I like the rapeseed guess Mary -- and the picture on the bottom of this article looks almost just like it... but here's the problem that I'm having with my little project idea...
I'm not sure if the artist was botanically accurate when she drew her flowers. For example, it seems like this p. 16 flower *would* be of the mustard family -- (like rapeseed)... but mustard is supposed to only have four petals and her drawing has five??
So... ???
(btw-- I'm not sure what the little yellow flower along our driveway is yet. It's not goldenrod - we get that mid Julyish.)
But... I think Hawthorn is great --  this wiki article seems to indicate there's a lot of folklore attached to Hawthorn too.
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To get more opinions, I'm going to scan just the flower from the pages. I uploaded a picture of the p . 16 yellow flower on my blog here.
Any other opinions? Do you think she just drew it wrong? Or do you recognize this as something else?
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Ok, my first guess would be St Johnswort. Then perhaps false foxglove or some sort of mullein, though the leaves are not right for those.
Could be she is not being botanically correct, though I do not have a European field guide. Perhaps one of our UK members could chime in?
Have you tried emailing the illustrator?
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I love it when I have an occasion to say to you "great minds think alike" -- I was thinking about doing this yesterday... but discovered she had died. 
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But St. John's Wort has such a different order of flowers...the artists drawings look very much like Mullein at the top, but missing the nice soft flat leaves!
Chicory are the small blue flowers.
Blackberry would be the berries I am pretty sure. They look smaller and more compact than the ones we stumble upon (literally) on the island!
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Hmmm... mullein is interesting. And so is this tidbit about mullein since Saint George is attacking the dragon on this page... but you're right the leaves aren't quite it. But mullein is common in Great Britain says wiki...
off to check the others...
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It took me so long to post that I didn't see your response Kristie!! I think I'm in agreement about St. John's wort.
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Also someone commented on my blog:
Mrs. Holter-Hovind wrote:
p7- the dog rose, which grows wild in England.
p11- the blackberry, ditto.
p16-agrimony
p20-hawthorne
p23-herb robert
I hope that helps. I agree p28 is chicory, although I wanted it to be comfrey (also called knit-bone)! |
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