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OK, so now that we've gotten the definitive answer from Elizabeth about Stone vs Stockmar crayons -- can you use these on plain drawing paper or should we get special drawing paper.
I've looked at a few Waldorf curriculum sites and they show the drawing being done in "main lesson books" which are basically plain paper, aren't they? Is there a special paper for use with the crayons? For instance, the Paper, Scissors, Stone catalog cover has a textured cardstock with a beautiful crayon (?) sketch????
So what say you, Waldorf experts?
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I think that for crayon, smooth paper is best, not slick but smooth. Texture in the paper (like watercolor paper, for instance) causes the crayon to go on less smoothly and frustrates my children. My guess is that the paper was actually drawn on smoother paper and then printed on to the heavy cardstock. It's a lovely catalog cover isn't it? Makes me want to buy everything in there...how's that for marketing?
ETA: I just went and found my catalog. It's a watercolor, not a crayon drawing.
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donnalynn wrote:
I missed the definitive crayon discussion! - where is it? I have both stockmar and lyra crayons and between those I like the quality of the stockmar crayons better but we enjoy some of the brighter colors from lyra.
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Donna,
The discussion is here. I don't know how definitive it was though; I didn't even compare Lyra because I don't have those...
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Donna:
Phooey! Where were you a couple days ago when I was completely crazy with the differences between these crayons  
Paper, Scissors, Stone is neat.....you can order individual crayons to "try them out" , not nec. more expensive. I ordered a set of Lyra's and a couple individuals of Stockmar and Stone.
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Oops....forgot to post about the actual TOPIC that you're asking about, Mary 
I bought a pad of heavier drawing paper (can't remember the lb. right now) and when we do something specific for a project.....such as drawing something for Catholic Mosaic, the liturgical year, special nature drawing, etc. I'll bring out the drawing paper. Or, if they ask for it specifically.
Otherwise, the regular scratch paper will be accessible at all time for use with the new crayons and pencils. I just can't see have unlimited good paper around....too $$$. But, I do want to have it for certain things.
That's my thought anyway.....we'll see....
ETA: I'm getting to know the Paper, Scissors, Stone people by name
So.....THEY say....
you want something that has a bit of "tooth" to it - 60-90# drawing paper. This works best for these crayons. If it's a paper that is meant for PRINTING, it will be smoother. Which won't take the crayon well. They take ink well, not crayon. Any "drawing paper" will have this "tooth" .....a bit more rough.
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I don't know if I am a Waldorf expert (actually I do know....I am not), we do use alot of Waldorf materials and I agree with Elizabeth about the smooth lesson book pages,
I have found my children really enjoy the quality crayons and paper. They treat them better, they seem to sense the quality and take extra time on their art work.
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Has anyone had any success with the Stockmar Block crayons? We got the regular crayons this past Christmas & our little girls continually dropped them on the hardwood floor & they pretty much all ended up breaking  .
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I'm going to try the Stockmar block crayons for my two year old, I think he'll really dig these 
Has anyone bought the little chubby ferbies?? I want to try these for metal inset work, but also encourage for drawing for my littlest two guys, TIA!!
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Meredith wrote:
| Has anyone bought the little chubby ferbies?? I want to try these for metal inset work, but also encourage for drawing for my littlest two guys, TIA!! |
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Meredith:
We received the Super Ferby Pencils about a month ago and we LOVE them! I went into annoying detail about them here. We got the long ones, since I have four kids, I just figured they'd last longer. We'll def. be ordering more! We use them for inset work, drawing, copywork....everything!
They have also helped with my 6.5dd pencil grip.
And, don't forget to make sure you have a LARGE HOLE pencil sharpener for them.
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| Has anyone had any success with the Stockmar Block crayons? We got the regular crayons this past Christmas & our little girls continually dropped them on the hardwood floor & they pretty much all ended up breaking . |
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Darn, I thought I heard that the beeswax crayons don't break too easily.
We do have the block crayons and they have gotten a lot of use. They're fun for shading, color patches, demonstrating thickness and solid vs. light color. Also for non-specific drawing.....we like to put up huge roll of butcher paper on the wall and they can use the block crayons for big swooping pictures.
My 18-month-old is starting to grab them and use them.
ETA: We have the Lyra Block Crayons.
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Thanks Suzanne!! Looking forward to seeing your little ones artwork  Sounds great!
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