Oh, Dearest Mother, Sweetest Virgin of Altagracia, our Patroness. You are our Advocate and to you we recommend our needs. You are our Teacher and like disciples we come to learn from the example of your holy life. You are our Mother, and like children, we come to offer you all of the love of our hearts. Receive, dearest Mother, our offerings and listen attentively to our supplications. Amen.



Active Topics || Favorites || Member List || Search || About Us || Help || Register || Login
Domestic Church
 4Real Forums : Domestic Church
Subject Topic: Questions on the Eucharist Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
MarilynW
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star


Joined: June 28 2006
Location: N/A
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4275
Posted: June 20 2009 at 6:41pm | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

Please could someone point me in the direction of guidance on two matters:
1) Taking Holy Communion on the tongue rather than the hand. Our church does not do this - unless you have a baby in your arms or other physical reason you cannot take Communion in your hands. FHC children are told to take Holy Communion in their hands. I have always thought there was some reason it is better to take Communion directly onto your tongue - but I don't know where to find guidance on this.

2) Is there clear guidance as to whether churches should offer Body and Blood? (bread and wine) - our church only does the Body of Christ. We went to a different church yesterday which offered both and my children have been asking - not sure of the correct way to answer.

Thanks for any help.

__________________
Marilyn
Blessed with 6 gifts from God



Back to Top View MarilynW's Profile Search for other posts by MarilynW
 
stellamaris
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star


Joined: Feb 26 2009
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2732
Posted: June 20 2009 at 8:18pm | IP Logged Quote stellamaris

Marilyn, here's an article about intinction and offering Communion under both forms. And a quote from the GIRM:
#281 “Holy Communion has a fuller form as a sign when it is distributed under both kinds.”
#282 Our faith teaches that Christ, whole and entire, is received even under only one species.
#283 “The Bishop has the faculty to permit Communion under both kinds whenever it may seem appropriate to the priest to whom, as its own shepherd, a community has been entrusted, provided that the faithful have been well instructed and there is no danger of profanation of the Sacrament or of the Rite becoming difficult because of the large number of participants or some other reason.” The Norms for the Distribution and Reception of Holy Communion under Both Kinds in the Dioceses of the United States of America are to be followed.

These Norms were approved by the Conference of Catholic Bishops on June 14, 2001, and approved by The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments on March 22, 2002. The rest of this article will deal with these Norms.

I also found out that the Vatican issued an instruction in 1969 allowing Bishops to permit reception of the Eucharist in the hand, however our Holy Father receives on the tongue. Maybe someone else can find some official documents on this... I'm out of computer time!


__________________
In Christ,
Caroline
Wife to dh 30+ yrs,ds's 83,85,89,dd's 91,95,ds's 01,01,02,grammy to 4
Flowing Streams
Back to Top View stellamaris's Profile Search for other posts by stellamaris Visit stellamaris's Homepage
 
JodieLyn
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: Sept 06 2006
Location: Oregon
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12234
Posted: June 20 2009 at 8:28pm | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

I know there is something about how to recieve.. but right at the moment I couldn't even begin to figure out what/where.. I believe it says something like recieving in the hand may be permitted but that they are not supposed to prohibit anyone from recieving on the tongue.. but I may not be 100% right on how that goes..

__________________
Jodie, wife to Dave
G-18, B-17, G-15, G-14, B-13, B-11, G-9, B-7, B-5, B-4

All men who have turned out worth anything have had the chief hand in their own education.
-Sir Walter Scott
Back to Top View JodieLyn's Profile Search for other posts by JodieLyn
 
MaryM
Board Moderator
Board Moderator
Avatar

Joined: Feb 11 2005
Location: Colorado
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 13104
Posted: June 20 2009 at 9:08pm | IP Logged Quote MaryM

There is a lot to this question, Marilyn. This is more complex than it may seen and there is hardly time to really address it before the boards are closed for the Sunday closure. Caroline's quotes above from the GIRM are helpful.

I thought that possibly this document/instruction from the Vatican's CONGREGATION FOR DIVINE WORSHIP AND THE DISCIPLINE OF THE SACRAMENT, published in 2004 would be of interest as well.
   Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum: On certain matters to be observed or to be avoided
regarding the Most Holy Eucharist


Cardinal Arinze wrote this introduction to the document.


Chapter IV addressed the "The Distribution of Holy Communion" and "Communion under Both Kinds." These are some of the most pertainent quotes, but I suggest reading the full text of that chapter.

Quote:
[91.] In distributing Holy Communion it is to be remembered that “sacred ministers may not deny the sacraments to those who seek them in a reasonable manner, are rightly disposed, and are not prohibited by law from receiving them”. Hence any baptized Catholic who is not prevented by law must be admitted to Holy Communion. Therefore, it is not licit to deny Holy Communion to any of Christ’s faithful solely on the grounds, for example, that the person wishes to receive the Eucharist kneeling or standing.

[92.] Although each of the faithful always has the right to receive Holy Communion on the tongue, at his choice, if any communicant should wish to receive the Sacrament in the hand, in areas where the Bishops’ Conference with the recognitio of the Apostolic See has given permission, the sacred host is to be administered to him or her. However, special care should be taken to ensure that the host is consumed by the communicant in the presence of the minister, so that no one goes away carrying the Eucharistic species in his hand. If there is a risk of profanation, then Holy Communion should not be given in the hand to the faithful.


Quote:
[100.] So that the fullness of the sign may be made more clearly evident to the faithful in the course of the Eucharistic banquet, lay members of Christ’s faithful, too, are admitted to Communion under both kinds, in the cases set forth in the liturgical books, preceded and continually accompanied by proper catechesis regarding the dogmatic principles on this matter laid down by the Ecumenical Council of Trent.

[101.] In order for Holy Communion under both kinds to be administered to the lay members of Christ’s faithful, due consideration should be given to the circumstances, as judged first of all by the diocesan Bishop. It is to be completely excluded where even a small danger exists of the sacred species being profaned. With a view to wider co-ordination, the Bishops’ Conferences should issue norms, once their decisions have received the recognitio of the Apostolic See through the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, especially as regards “the manner of distributing Holy Communion to the faithful under both kinds, and the faculty for its extension”.


And as Cardinal Arinze says it is helpful to read this document in light of Pope John Paul II's 2003 encyclical letter, Ecclesia de Eucharistia.


More to come.....


__________________
Mary M. in Denver

Our Domestic Church
Back to Top View MaryM's Profile Search for other posts by MaryM Visit MaryM's Homepage
 
MarilynW
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star


Joined: June 28 2006
Location: N/A
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4275
Posted: June 22 2009 at 6:29am | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

Thank you all - lots to read and think about here.

__________________
Marilyn
Blessed with 6 gifts from God



Back to Top View MarilynW's Profile Search for other posts by MarilynW
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  [Add this topic to My Favorites] Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Hosting and Support provided by theNetSmith.com