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I'm trying to find a program to use for history for the upcoming school year. I'll have a K'er and 2nd grader. I want something that isn't too teacher time intensive (planning wise) but more than Seton or CHC offers. I want to be able to combine history for all grade-levels as much as possible. Simplicity is key with all these little people underfoot!
SOTW and CWH were the 2 programs I'm looking at and I would like some comparisons on them, pros/cons, experiences, etc.
Thank you!
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Lindsey,
Is CWH Connecting with History? From what I hear, there is no real text, but piecing together a lot of books, which I love. I love book lists to pick and choose.
I'm still forming my plan, but I did ask some questions here: How Do You Approach History? and got some really sage advice. I think I've decided to not sweat too much formal history at 2nd grade.
I really, really loved Mary Daly's First Timeline (I couldn't pull up the site right now). I did this for First Grade. It's scripted and funn to read, and the pictures are nice to color.
It can be easily expanded, adding picture and living books. Love2Learn Alicia Von Hecke started a list of supplemental reading. It's not complete, but you can see how it goes.
I'm sad to leave it, but am now listening to Story of the World Vol 1 on cd together as just casual listening. We're both highly enjoying it.
See this thread for some discussions of audio history for this age.
I think the question you have to ask is what is the outcome or goal for your history?
What do you want your child to learn with history?
Are you wanting more formal and traditional facts and memorization?
Is this for an overview, understanding broadly that there are different periods and civilizations, seeing a bit of the concept of history?
Is this to integrate geography and culture, so more crafty hands-on approach?
That's what I'm doing, asking these questions, and I have decided we're not doing this formally, but enjoying with reading and audio for World Overview and some American History. I'm still putting the pieces together, though.
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JennGM wrote:
I really, really loved Mary Daly's First Timeline (I couldn't pull up the site right now). I did this for First Grade. It's scripted and funn to read, and the pictures are nice to color.
It can be easily expanded, adding picture and living books. Love2Learn Alicia Von Hecke started a list of supplemental reading. It's not complete, but you can see how it goes.
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I've been using this booklist which is a free download at St. George Books linked on the description for First Timeline
It is rather thorough!
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Lindsey
I own and have used both. They are quite different. Both allow you to use for multiple grades. As Jenn said CWH has lots of books, with a plan on how to use them. SOTW is one book, with an activity book. We have enjoyed both programs and learnt so much from each approach. In regards to teacher intensive planning, CWH took a bit more time to get my head around but that was more because I didn't feel it was easily set up to use across multiple ages (my age spread is much bigger than yours, your age spread wouldn't need any changing) and I had to set up my own spreadsheet to have it making sense for me.
To be totally honest I really enjoyed CWH, but I suspect my boys(15, 13 & 11) are learning more with SOTW. But with younger ones only I'd be back to CWH in a flash. Keep in mind though I don't own the Vol 1 SOTW but the 4th volume.
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Thanks for the responses so far.
Yes, CWH/RC history/connecting with history is the program I was considering. It seems so expensive, though.  With being a convert to the faith, I am worried about having to weed out anti-Catholic materials.
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I also use CWH -it's worth remembering that very few of their recommended resources are consumable.
It's very good for someone who wants to learn along with the children but it can take a fair amount of planning time or a willingness to pull things together on the fly. However if you wish to keep things simple it's fairly easy to simplify.
What I do first before buying any books for a new volume is to download the book list and check how many of the books I either own or can find in the library.
I also check other history reading lists for alternative books which I or my library may have- I quite like the booklist in For the love of literature).
I then establish my budget, and figure how many books I can buy over the starter pack and core books.
Then I pick and choose according to what my children particularly enjoy and what topics I particularly need resources for.
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