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Has anyone made the montessori music chart for at home? I was reading about it in Advance Montessori and wondered if it would help my 8 year old learn how to read music faster...she has been playing Suzuki violin for 5 years, but needs to learn how to read now to progress along a little better. I thought maybe a tray painted according to the Advanced Montessori and then use poker type chips painted black? Any ideas?
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Hmm, I'm liking this idea. We, too, do Suzuki violin; and though they work with their teacher on note reading and other points of music theory, I've often wondered what I could provide to reinforce that.
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I don't know, myself, but I am subscribing to the thread as I would be very interested in learning. I was a music major in college, but I learned the "old fashioned" way. I have contemplated Suzuki violin for our oldest (just turned 3). Also, I love so many Montessori methods, I am very curious about it as applied to music!
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I've seen three part cards somewhere for half notes, whole notes, ect...You could also make three part cards for note names/reading notes on the staff. I like the idea of a painted tray with black chips! Sounds fun to me - more so than the three part cards, actually.
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we have plenty of three part cards that could apply. I am thinking about the section in Advanced Montessori Method (Part IV) called Music. Section II...here is a quote to get us thinking...Material:in the children's house the musical staff is introduced by means of a board painted green with the lines in bas relief. On each line and in each space representing the octave to which the sounds of the bells respectively correspond (we don't have the bells, only violins and piano and lap harps...so we may have to get the bells first for this to work??)
back to quote:is a small circular indenture or socket into which the disk for each note may be inserted. Inside each indenture is written a number (1, 2 etc) The disks used in thie exercisehave a number written on the lower face and the name of a note on the upper for instance 1, do 2, rae, etc.
This device enables the child to place the notes on their repsective lines without making any mistakes and to examine their relative positions... It is reommended to have 30 to 40 disks...unquote...
Then they can ring the bells corresponding to this music they have created? So they are writing and reading thier own music. Later they transpose it onto sheet paper. I will have to ponder this more to think how to create it. Maybe just a long board with circular grooves painted with the staff? Hmm. Any other ideas?
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I wonder if a feltboard wouldn't accomplish the idea and be easier to make?
In the above that's described, are they just note heads or are there stems and such, too?
I also wonder if someone doesn't make stencils of notes and signs to help them trace and form the notes more perfectly? Drawing notes accurately on staff paper is hard even for an adult.
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Hi Marcia,
I was wondering, what Suzuki volume is your dd on?
I really don't think you need bells when you have the real thing - the piano. It is usually the otherway round. People get bells becuase they don't have a piano.
The piano keyboard is so clear for the child to see and hear the corresponding note (not like the violin where it would be more by ear than sight/feeling of finger spacing).
If you can, try to have the piano regularly tuned as each note is made up of the sounding of 3 strings so if they are out of tune with each other, the child cannot hear a pure note. A violin even "out of tune" gives one note. Only one note is sounded. The piano hammer hits 3 at a time.
Maybe at 8 years old and having already had musical experience, your dd would be happier just a little material (e.g. cut out treble clef that she can position on lines and a couple of cut out notes) so that she can go on with 5 lined paper and writing the treble clef and notes herself. Most children I know at this age like to be writing their music for themselves. The drawing of the note and staff is not difficult to achieve. The position if found by counting. It is not like learning to write the alphabet where a motion of tracing the letter has to be learned.
Many beginners enjoy writing their own music - it can be done both ways - composing a short line, and then writing it down; or writing something down and discovering what it sounds like.
All the above ideas are great. If you are short of time etc, I would try and figure out what she already knows and build on that. Then she will be sure to use your materials. If it is too basic, it may not be used as much as you might hope.
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We have the felt music materials from Mont and Such. They are well made and we really like them so far. The kit has has a felt board with the lines, lots of notes, clefs, rests, numbers for time signatures, letters C-G, etc with velcro tabs.
But my dd is just beginning with music instruction (with the bells) so I don't know if this would work with a more advanced student.
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lapazfarm wrote:
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I knew the felt board was a good idea 
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My daughter is just finishing Book 3. I have three kids following her footsteps so having this material made and ready for them won't be the worst thing! I am adding it to my "to do" list. For those of you who do Suzuki I just finished reading a great book called Teaching from the Balance Point. The photos of the positions for kids were so clear and nice that I am making a little booklet to go near our violin stands for reminders of how to hold your positions during the WHOLE song! :)
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Marcia, I really like it! While I was looking at it my dd (also in Book 3) came by and said, "Hey, Lisa [her Suzuki teacher] has one just like that, except it's red, and the bass clef is on the other side." Montessori meets Suzuki, indeed!
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