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My dd1 is having a problem I haven't dealt with before and I wonder if anyone else has encountered this problem...
All of a sudden any real food I give her seems to be scalding her bottom after a soiled diaper. The scalding happens very quickly - I change her often. I backed off of her food completely for a week (tho she eats VERY little anyway) and her poor little bottom improved. Then yesterday I let her munch on a baby carrot - which she loves to do - and boom - nightmare diapers are back in full force.  And she used to just soil a diaper (nicely) every other day - now she has 4-5 painful diapers a day at least, and she even does this in the middle of the night. In all other things she seem fine - no fever, good energy, but a bit fussier than usual.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on with this?
I'm using the "Dr. Smith's" diaper cream to sooth her and it seems to help pretty well but is there something better I should try?
I don't mind just nursing her fulltime, she only really wanted baby food for about 2 months (when she was 7-9 months old) but now she really doesn't want much, but does grab for occasional thing. But I'm concerned over this burned backside, in no small part because it makes for very challenging diaper changing time. But more because of the frequency and the painfulness. Could this be anything serious?
My kids have always been very late eaters and I have plenty of milk as long as I eat like a horse  , but we sure could use some words of advice on this one!
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Amie - Well I can relate to the burnt bottom. I just finished dealing with this with my little one. It was heartbreaking. Ours was a litttle different though. It stemed from juice - which I cut out, and a sensitvity to certain diapers and wipes. She can only wear Luvs diapers and use sensitive skin wipes-anythng else causes a bad case of diaper rash and a burning bottom. I also stopped feeding her alot of more acid based things. I feed her rice cereal, bananas, crackers broken up, and things that are mild like the Gerber quick dissolve fruit and veggie bites. I also tried every diaper cream known to man and the only one that made a dent was A &D ointment. Unfortunately by the time I used that her rash was so bad that she ended up with impetigo on her legs too from her scratching at her rash. I took her in and she had a bacterial infection for her rash and had impetigo on her legs. They gave her a nystatin based cream called Fougera for the diaper rash and Augmentin for the impetigo. It was quite an ordeal and I feel for you. It is soo hard to see them hurting and their bottoms all burning and, in my dd's case, sometimes bleeding after a soiled diaper. I will pray for you and I hope some of this helps.
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Lansinoh
(that lanolin breast cream in the purple tube).
Its expensive, but THE ONLY thing that work. HEAP it on thick. You may have to rub it around your fingers to soften it to go on since its kind of sticky. Put it on everywhere the rash is happening and TONS of it.
It will do the trick. We had a similar situation last week. Fruit will especially burn those bottoms.
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PS,
I forgot to say that it sounds like your baby might have a slight stomach bug to be going in the middle og the night, too.
Mary's right, too. If the rash doesn't go away within several days or worsens despite the Lansinoh he may have yeast infection and then you can try topical Miconizole (the same stuff we ladies use). Use it twice a day for 7-10 days. Keep it going even if it clears up for the full 7-10 days to really get rid of the spores.
You'd put that on first and then the Lansinoh on top of that and NOT the reverse.
Never put cortisone on yeast.
Hang in there. . .
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I agree with the above..
I didn't use lanolin (good idea though!), but found great success with Vit. E oil capsules popped and smeared on the bum. 1 - 2 capsules is pretty think and it's kind of sticky too - so it stays on the bum to keep it healed and covered.
It does look horridly painfull! Thsi only happens with a few of mine and only in the summer for some reason. Poor guy #7 lets out a wail like you wouldn't believe when he pees the first time it starts and from then on we know to use the E oil until summer is over.
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One quick warning: before using lanolin, do a little test patch. Wool allergies are not at all uncommon and children and moms who are allergic to wool will react to lanolin with a rash  .
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What other foods is your baby reacting too? It sounds like she can't handle the acidic foods. It also could be food allergies, so keep an eye out. Amy is an expert on food allergies, so she might chime in. My limited experience showed multiple diapers when my son had food allergic too, and his bottom hurt. And it was pretty soon. Are the stools mucuosy? Any blood? Those are other red flags.
Lanisoh is a good idea, but in my family we're allergic to lanolin, so if you see reactions, that could be the cause.
Boudreaux's Butt Paste (sp) is a good one that many moms swear by. My s-i-l and I swore by prevention method. After diapering, lather on Aquaphor, then a layer of Desitin. You are creating a moisture barrier between the contents of the diaper and the bottom, but also healing up the bobos. (sorry, couldn't resist).
One of my sisters had yeast infections as a baby. If you've had thrush or your baby has had some oozing rash on face and bottom when she was younger, she might be susceptible to yeast. I forget the name of that rash...
Besides the great advice here on treatment...some other pointers. If it's yeast, moisture is its friend and your child's enemy. Try to give your child as much time diaper free if you can. After a bath make sure everything is completely dry before diapering. My mom used a lamp to help dry up the diaper area after bathing.
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I've had problems with acidic burns on the bottom. I had a lot of success with a home remedy of Mylanta mixed with Ponds cold cream.
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I love Dr Smiths! Has she had mandarin oranges or citrus? That always immediately starts burned bottoms with mine.
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So many odd things burned my babies' bottoms - pea, carrot, sweet potato (for one), soy...
My DDs have sometimes had this trouble temporarily when cutting a tooth.
If the foods that are causing trouble now never caused a problem before, I would think it was something more temporary like a stomach bug. Is she fine off of solids, but having problems on them?
When nothing else would work on a nasty rash, we used Burt's Bees diaper cream with California Baby powder. They have natural anti-fungal and anti-bacterial properties.
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At one point I had a one year old with a very sore bottom that was actually kind of blistered/raw. She just cried and whimpered from the rubbing of her diaper against that sore skin. I wound up taking her to the dr., who prescribed Silvadene, which is used to treat burns, because he said that what she had was essentially a chemical burn. It worked really well, really quickly.
I have also had several children whose digestive tracts were in no way ready to deal with the things that were typically recommended to be feeding children at whatever age they were. This lead to all sorts of very acidic bowel movements that lead to sore bottoms.
I think it would be just fine to pull way back on what she's eating and try some of the milder things in a couple of weeks or so. Also, vaseline or calendula applied at every diaper change, even when there is no apparent problem might protect the skin. Another thing that as a nursing mother I had trouble remembering is that in the hot weather especially, drinking lots of water is a good idea for the little ones as well as for mom. This dilutes the urine so that it is less stinging.
HTH. I know it is miserable to have a little one be uncomfortable.
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Fantastic, thank you- you all have given me lots more options than I thought I had. I'm going to go with the slathering on of the creams. I bought 2 more Dr. Smith's today and I'll try the Lansinoh and possibly the vaseline if that doesn't set up enough barrier.
I love the prevention approach you all mentioned and the aquaphor/desetin idea - I bet putting it all on thicker will give her some relief. And drinking more water like Nancy mentioned. Okay, I'm full of hope for this poor kid!
But here's the follow up:
--Her stools ARE mucus-y and if she didn't have a BM, she wouldn't burn. It is definitly caused by the stool.
--I avoid dairy for her sake. But nothing else - it seems entirely related to the intake of solids for her. Even the most mild foods seem to bother. So yes, she is fine off solids and not fine on them.
So do these factors indicate probable stomach bug?
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Hi Amie and all,
I don't know, just my thoughts here, but I'm wondering about the intestinal flora of you and your daughter? Has she ever been on antibiotics? Have you been on antibiotics since she was born/nursing. Sometimes I really wonder when these things are going on, if all is right with our intestines. Anyone else, or is it just me? 
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Thanks for the reminder of allergies of lanolin. I think Lansinoh has a very low incidence of the allergenic substance and is pretty safe. Hopefully it won't cause problems.
lanolin
Boric acid is in the Butt paste, though, and is now considered unsafe. Who would have thought? Nothing is ever easy! Hope it just clears up and you don't have to use diaper cream at all. I stumbled across this fact recently found out its toxic. Great! I also heard its in Desitin--how many times have I used that? I think I read boric acid is absorbed through the skin.
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Sarah wrote:
Thanks for the reminder of allergies of lanolin. I think Lansinoh has a very low incidence of the allergenic substance and is pretty safe. Hopefully it won't cause problems.
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Maybe so, but I'm extremely leary. One sister of mine had horrible oozing eczema as a young teenager. Turns out to be a reaction to lanolin...and even derivatives of lanolin, or very purified. But I deal with allergies differently. If something is said to be allergenic to me, I'm staying away...I'm not going to TRY something that MIGHT be purified.
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| Boric acid is in the Butt paste, though, and is now considered unsafe. Who would have thought? Nothing is ever easy! Hope it just clears up and you don't have to use diaper cream at all. I stumbled across this fact recently found out its toxic. Great! I also heard its in Desitin--how many times have I used that? I think I read boric acid is absorbed through the skin. |
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Hmmm...that's the first I heard of this. I'd like to hear more.
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I would really be considering what baby is eating. Jot it down, you may miss something even minute that could be causing/contributing to the problem. Then try to eliminate all foods you feel are unsafe then re-introduce to test for the 'culprit'
I always go for natural health and after years of skin sensitivites and on dh's behalf also I'm very particular. On what cream to use, I am a new and big fan of coconut oil. Buy the organic unprocessed oil if possible. It has 50% Lauric acid, which is an important ingredient of mother's milk. Now my Nursing mother's counseller(I think La Leche in USA) tells me mother's milk is even better 
I have been using coconut oil on Saxon with a huge result. He has a staph infection (dd12, told her father we should of had a homebirth ) and I was unsure how much of the 'nappy rash' was part of the staph-dreadful. Anyhow the 'rash' has cleared up  
I have a friend who has used it for sunburn, rashes, eczema and even as a suntan lotion. I'm going to try it on a ringworm be interesting to see.
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My problem too, for years I put Lanolin on my eczema and then would rip my skin apart scratching. 
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I had never heard of this until just 2 months ago when my son had a severe stomach bug. Poor guys bum was so raw during and afterwards . Then my SIL told me about Mylanta (without the Ponds cold cream) - it was a little hard to get on (thus the Ponds cold cream) but cleared that little bum quickly!
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My pediatrician in TX told me about the Mylanta on a sore bottom--worked nicely.
Another thing that helps the bottom is using baking soda in the bath water--just a sprinkle or two. It helps neutralize the acid as well.
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Sarah wrote:
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I was intrigued by this too. I did a little digging and here's a quote from this article.
Over the past three years the review board suggested that at least nineteen ingredients be removed from personal care products--including coal tar, a hair dye linked to high rates of bladder cancer among hairdressers; sodium borate, sometimes called boric acid, which has been linked to testicular development problems and is included in Desitin diaper rash ointment for infants, and which the CIR recommended "should not be used on infant or injured skin"; ... The FDA has done nothing to mandate removal of these or legions of other potentially dangerous ingredients, according to the Environmental Working Group.
I hadn't heard of this at all before. It's discouraging to hear that things you thought were not only safe, but beneficial are harmful. Overwhelming 
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kingvozzo wrote:
I hadn't heard of this at all before. It's discouraging to hear that things you thought were not only safe, but beneficial are harmful. Overwhelming |
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I know! It makes me paranoid. What IS safe! I wash my diapers with borax, too.
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