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Speaking of entertainment, Don and I have been watching Mormon films! They are very campy and clean--fun for the whole family!
We had been watching Big Love on HBO (NOT for children), which is the story of a polygamist and his family. Intrigued by the many Mormon references, we rented The Book of Mormon to see what Mormons believe (we had a vague idea). It was a very made-for-TV version of the book, but it ends about halfway, and the DVD is followed by an appeal for money to make the rest of the movie. Really.
So, armed with more information, we decided to rent some of the other Mormon films, including The Home Teachers which was OK (not about homeschooling, but about the visits Mormons pay to other Mormons to keep them on track), Mobsters and Mormons (marginally anti-Catholic--the mobsters attended an empty church...haha  , though they make it clear they will not be converted, and are not--but funny), and my favorite so far, The RM (returning missionary), the funniest of all. All are rated PG, but I really saw nothing objectionable in any of it.
The DVDs are all available from Netflix. Most of the DVDs have trailers for other LDS films that are not available yet, but look amusing.
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Another campy, clean and funny LDS film is the Mormon's modern day update of _Pride & Prejudice_.
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70018104&trkid=1 89530&strkid=16823427_2_0.
Though I'm a bit confused, MacBeth; your message might sound pro-LDS if one did not know that you are (of course) quite grounded in your Catholic faith. If I am over-reacting it is because dh and I researched the Mormon faith when dh's brother married in to it. The Mormon encyclopedia at our local library was rather revealing. Please also look to material other than LDS-produced material for what Mormons believe.
Envoy Magazine would be a great source for more information about Mormonism.
LDS are notorious for putting on the gloss about what they believe, which is just the beginning of their errant ways. Like when they run Passion plays at Easter time. Our priest recently explained that not only do Mormons not believe in the Jesus Christ of Scripture, they don't even believe in the God of the Bible. Forgive me any offense, but I do know what I'm talking about here.
And still, I think their P&P movie was very funny...
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Oh, Victoria, I am not considering becoming a Mormon, nor am I in any way endorsing the LDS, but I do think that when the missionaries come around that one is best informed about their beliefs. The films, which are amusing, provide us with the picture they wish to project to others. The LDS films include nearly nothing about their beliefs (except the Book of Mormon film), but dwell on their outward actions--missionary work, home teaching, abstaining from coffee (they'd lose me right there...  ), wholesome love of family, and all that. My interest is anthropological and historical. And I like humor.
Like you, I am fairly well-informed about the quasi-Christian nature of the LDS faith. The most shocking information I discovered a while back is that The Church (ours--the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church), does not accept a Mormon baptism as valid. Whoa. So right there, there must be some crazy theological differences, as most Christian baptisms are valid in the eyes of The Church. Digging deeper, including reading the Book of Mormon, which is found in Marriott Hotels right next to the Gideon's Bible, has proved beyond a doubt that this is an odd faith, with tenuous connections to true Christianity.
Sorry to confuse. I tend to think of this forum as My Big Living-room, and sometimes I just mutter my amusement aloud, assuming you'll all know what I mean. 
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Victoria in AZ wrote:
LDS are notorious for putting on the gloss about what they believe, which is just the beginning of their errant ways. Like when they run Passion plays at Easter time. Our priest recently explained that not only do Mormons not believe in the Jesus Christ of Scripture, they don't even believe in the God of the Bible. Forgive me any offense, but I do know what I'm talking about here.
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Yes they are!!....I am married to a mormon and 3 of my kids followed that way.  I seem to always be fighting off the sneaky ways of trying to get ppl into that whole mess.
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I grew up in Salt Lake City--born and raised there. We were the only "Gentiles" (non-Mormons) on the block and we lived next door to the Smiths,. . . yep, direct descendents of Joseph Smith himself.
Two of the girls (Mormon) I grew up with were in my Catholic wedding and I keep in contact with them today.
Being the only Catholics on the block was pretty lonely, though. My father, a jazz musician from Iowa who moved first to Las Vegas to play Big Band at Ceasar's Palace, was the LAST person that would fit in with the neighborhood. He drank coffee and LOTS of other beverages (if you know what I mean  ). Those Moromon kids never drank caffeine either. Caffeine was the sinful part of soda, coffee, tea. Obviously, alcohol was even worse!
I did learn from them, though. They all had large families and the moms stayed at home. My family as small and my mom worked full-time. The family life was good, wholesome (for the most part) and the "ward" (parish equivalent) was a very supportive community. The "church" was within walking distance for everyone.
Obviously, though, they are missing the boat with their religion.
I long, though, for a similar community for my kids--lots of Catholic families living as neighbors, a mother figure home & present in every house to watch & nuture each other's kids and support each other.
It was a nice place to grow up, actually.
A lot of who I am as a homeschool mom is similar to those Mormon women with lots of kids. 
Every Monday night was "family home evening." I was sent home those days so they could be alone as a family, and I SO wished my family would do that. It meant games and planned activities as a family and brainwashing their children in their religion. We could do the same now, just use the true Faith. I actually started doing that with my kids, but my husband would NOT let me call it "family home evening." We just called it game night.
Finally, I thought you'd be interested to know, and maybe you already do, that when I lived there the public schools in Utah got away with religion in the school by building a "seminary" building right on the edge of school property and the law allowed kids attending public school to attend a religious class each day. Of course, that meant that the Mormons could walk to "seminary," but if you were another religion, then, too bad, you'll have a free period or you can take some other class.
Sorry to ramble. . .
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Sarah wrote:
Every Monday night was "family home evening." I was sent home those days so they could be alone as a family, and I SO wished my family would do that. It meant games and planned activities as a family and brainwashing their children in their religion. We could do the same now, just use the true Faith.
Finally, I thought you'd be interested to know, and maybe you already do, that when I lived there the public schools in Utah got away with religion in the school by building a "seminary" building right on the edge of school property and the law allowed kids attending public school to attend a religious class each day. Of course, that meant that the Mormons could walk to "seminary," but if you were another religion, then, too bad, you'll have a free period or you can take some other class.
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No need to apologize. We lived next to Mesa, AZ for many years, which is the next largest settlement of Mormons outside of Utah. I also saw many beautiful Mormon families. I suppose it is like any large populaton though, you have the best and the worst mixed in. My Creative Memories salesperson was a Mormon and she and family members all bought homes on the same court during a new construction phase. I admired that very much. I also admire their modest way of dressing.
Also, I saw many, many of those "seminary" buildings next to the public schools. It's amazing what one group can do if they achieve a majority in politics!
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