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I know that here at 4Real our main focus is not politics, but I have to say I am giddy- GIDDY- at the thought of Planned Parenthood being shut down.
This has been a summer of such incredibly sick news, and this last business about PP is revolting from every angle (as if PP wasn't awful enough already).
In our diocese we are petitioning Our Lady of Guadalupe daily to help close the abortion clinic here in town by December 12 of this year. I am praying that PP will close its doors forever and that will lead to the end of the clinic here as well 
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I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble here, I am so thankful that the truth about Planned Parenthood is coming out and even their supporters are finally waking up. But I'm also quite pessimistic about what this administration will actually do about it. Already they've been spinning it with the help of mainstream media, and already they're turning things around and upside down and going after the guys that filmed those videos.
Abortion is the sacred cow and many people in power will go to great lengths to keep it legal. Safe and rare is another matter but I'll stop here. Joining you guys in prayer that this abomination may be eliminated once and for all.
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Yes, Stef. I must admit that the videos didn't make a huge impact on me because I know that, for all the rhetoric that most abortion supporters give, they actually do not care about or even believe what they are saying. They KNOW it is a human, and they are okay with that.
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yeah for most people, they really do know what they're doing, and they've hardened themselves against it believing that it's the greater good, that there's no other way to help women who don't want to be pregnant and are. And confronting them with this will only make them go on the defensive.
But I still believe this is a step in the right direction. It's way more personal than the anonymous "fetus". And I think in the next months as they have space to really think about it, you'll find people backing away from being quite so hard core.. oh they might still be pro-choice but that's because they don't have an alternative.
What needs to happen is not so much piling on more horror but in proclaiming ways to help women that doesn't involve killing babies.. they need that to step away from the "but there's no other way so we have to have abortions".
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I don't know... I see this as a small victory. The absolute horror of abortion- can it get worse- yes: you can show videos of a creepy woman with a drink in one hand saying she wants to buy an expensive car and is selling dead baby parts to fund herself.
I think the sheer crassness of her crime is turning people away from Planned Parenthood. It is furnishing further proof about how low, nasty and heinous this whole "business" is.
Even if only one person sees this story on the news or reads about in the newspaper and has a change of heart, that is progress to me. I know the war is still raging, but some scandals are really, really hard to come back from. Sometimes empires crumble little by little.
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Here's what Matt Walsh said just now.. I think this sums it up nicely... they dropped the ball.. it's time for us to grab it and run..
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| July 28 in DC. Rally to defund Planned Parenthood. This is just the beginning. The first step is to defund abortion, but the next is to finally criminalize it. People have asked me why we should worry merely about defunding Planned Parenthood rather than shutting it down altogether. Well, that is the final goal, of course. But now, with these recent videos, and more to come, we have a moment. An opportunity. Now is the time to seize that opportunity and do with it what we can. This is just the first step, but it's important we all join in it. We might never get another chance like this. |
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Yes= what he said!
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what gives me most hope -- although it's really painful for them -- are the post-abortive women and former supporters who are starting to see the light.
‘Never again:’ Former Planned Parenthood supporters express anger on Facebook
What Planned Parenthood's "Tissue Harvesting" Program Means to Me- The Post Abortive Mother
Let's keep praying.
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I wrote two posts on it recently, if anyone's interested 
Sex Education Is How We Got to “Body Parts”
Till We Have Faces: The Unmasking of Planned Parenthood
If anyone here decides to write about it, please let me know so I can link to you too.
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The PP closest to us has remained open even though they haven't had a doctor on staff to perform abortions (2 years??). That is changing and a date for next month was given that they will be performing them again. Prayers please! There is a pro-life team who prays daily at this location and the leader is pretty determined that the prayers will stop this. They have been very successful in the past and they kept doctors away from this location and have changed some women's minds. More prayers would be helpful as this has saved many babies! (The next PP is two hours away. A drive I hope has prevented many abortions!)
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My daughter was at the Defund Planned Parenthood rally in DC yesterday - a lot of the speeches were very moving and gave me hope that things will change.
Today our "Catholic" governor refused to investigate Planned Parenthood in Virginia.
I highly recommend this video of Senator Lankford's speech on July 16 - one of the best I have heard.
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Yes- we watched that one... very moving!
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Please pray now
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I was encouraged to see WV Senator Joe Manchin take a stand in favor of further investigations of PP. He may or may not vote to defund PP in future votes, but he is clearly looking out for his constituents' well-being right now. He wants to know the truth - this is consistent with his behavior in office as a Senator and as Governor of WV.
Let's pray that many more elected representatives conduct their own searches for the truth about this very important issue.
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