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Starting the SCD today for my UC and am feeling overwhelmed with the committment. Anyone else on this diet? I'm thinking a support group for encouragement would be great ... this is a huge committment - it's like the author, Elaine Gottschall, says - "fanatical adherence". No point in sort of doing it. If you're going to do it, DO IT. So, I'm doing it. ...wish me luck ... I'm already craving my forbiddens 
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You can do it Chris!
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Chris,
I don't know what SCD or UC is, but I was trying to do no carbs over the weekend and I gave up. I thought I might try to do a few days of no carbs and then a 3-day juice fast. I'm not totally prepared as far as having the right food here and I need to read a bit more, so that might be the problem for me.
I wish you luck!
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Erica Sanchez wrote:
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I don't know what SCD or UC is, but I was trying to do no carbs over the weekend and I gave up. I thought I might try to do a few days of no carbs and then a 3-day juice fast. I'm not totally prepared as far as having the right food here and I need to read a bit more, so that might be the problem for me.
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Oh goodness, I'm so sorry  - I should have written the words out rather than use abbreviations! SCD is the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and I've started it to treat my Ulcerative Colitis. This particular diet is so very much like the GAPS diet, but just a bit different. I've read the books for each of them, and actually took an online class for implementing the GAPS diet, but have been dragging my feet for at least a year now. But it's time. I know that the SCD diet will be very, very hard (absolutely NO carbohydrates whatsoever - except those found in fruit and honey - but I cannot eat those until I get some of my symptoms better under control ... well, I am allowed to cook the fruit, but I may not introduce that for a few weeks).
Trying to be optimistic about this diet. It has the potential to *cure* me, not just manage my symptoms, so the discipline it will take will be worth it. ... but already, just an hour after dinner I felt like I was STARVING  . I just hate restricting myself, that's all (never been good at it!).
Good luck to you too! Juice fasts can be very beneficial.
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Chris, be sure you're not doing "low fat" at the same time unless the diet says to. I know from experience if you don't get enough fat that you will feel like you're "starving" even when you've had more than enough food.
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Chris,
If you get over the hump and feel better it will be easier!
Also, remember to keep drinking. Water is good. I have forgotten what the restrictions are, but can you drink tea? Different drinks helped keep me going in the beginning!!!!
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JodieLyn wrote:
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No, no reason to do anything low-fat. It shouldn't be too difficult to get enough fat. The diet allows for some unprocessed cheese (such as mild or medium cheddar), avacado, and whole nuts for snacking. Though no liquid milk products - so heavy cream with my tea is out  , yet homemade yogurt is fine, as is DRY-curd cottage cheese. I'm still a nursing mom to twins, so getting enough fat and calories is really important.
Most of the testimonials that I've read, and the author's advice, is to stay on the diet for up to two years before reintroducing certain foods back into your diet. That's what I mean about committment ... I'm up for it though. If I have the power to heal myself through choice of food, my gosh, to NOT do it seems like the crazy choice.
Hubby is off to the grocery store with my list, good man. 
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Betsy wrote:
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If you get over the hump and feel better it will be easier!
Also, remember to keep drinking. Water is good. I have forgotten what the restrictions are, but can you drink tea? Different drinks helped keep me going in the beginning!!!!
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Oh my goodness, YES! Getting over the hump is going to be the challenge, and once I start seeing results in the ease of my symptoms, that will be a huge booster for me to continue on. That, I'm looking forward to!
I CAN drink tea  My gosh, what would I do if I couldn't drink my tea?!
So, Betsy, you've done the SCD diet before? How did it work for you? Success? How long were you on it?
I'm so highly encouraged by this diet, I feel like it is so much more "user-friendly" than the GAPS diet. After spending so much time learning and reading up on the GAPS diet, I still felt like it would just be *too* much to take on. Not sure why. But after I read Elaine's book on the SCD, I immediately thought this is the one for me, this will work for me, I can do this. 
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I have a friend that has used SCD. For herself and her son. They saw GREAT improvement and were able to gradually add some things back in. Not all. And more for her than her son. But it worked. They both were able to feel good. And over time they were able to find recipes that gave them foods they enjoy and still stick to the diet. Let me know if there's something in particular you are looking for I can ask her (might take a bit of time) but she's been doing it for years.
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Chris V wrote:
So, Betsy, you've done the SCD diet before? How did it work for you? Success? How long were you on it?
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I have only done it casually and it was years ago. However, dispite the fact that I am in denial, I will probably need to do something like this again.
I have done other strict, no sugar type stuff and the two bits of advice seemed to help the most (like I said above) is there is a hump, and once you get over it it's better and keep drinking!
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Thanks for the explanation, Chris. This sounds so hard, but I will pray for you! I think I would eat avacados all day long. :)
Does Elaine recommend certain kinds of nuts or just all nuts?
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I really like the Paleo Cookbook, Well Fed. Lots of yummy grain and dairy-free recipes. Do you use coconut oil? I like using coconut oil in my eggs for added fat, and diced tomatoes make the scrambled eggs easier to eat without toast or potatoes, imo. Coconut milk is also yummy cold as a sub for whipped cream on berries and things (you can do berries before other fruit, right?). You can also add some honey and cocoa for a mousse that is nice 
It will get easier. I haven't done SCD specifically, but I was highly restricted for a while and the baby still can't tolerate my eating much dairy. I had my first ice cream in a year last week, and it WAS good, but the baby has not been sleeping well at all, and sleep is better, lol.
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Breaking the Vicious Cycle is an excellent book on the SCD. I have read through it twice now and still pick up things that I didn't understand before. The influence that carbohydrates have in overall intestinal health is something that I think many don't understand (though it is not medically proven that carbohydrates themselves are the actually cause of the varying intestinal diseases, once the damage to the intestinal wall is done, the carbohydrates only exaserbate the problem). Really, it comes down to healing the intenstinal wall - and how that is done is to eliminate the fermentation process that happens within the intestine. Elimination of certain types of carbohydrates, starch, lactose, and all sugar (except that found in honey and fruit) is the key to healing - stopping the bacteria growth, the bacteria that provides food to the microbes that have taken up residence in the small intestine. Normally this isn't a problem in healthy intestines, but someone (such as myself) that has UC, there is either no absorption or malabsorption of all carbohydrates - so the cycle continues.
So rather than it being necessary to eliminate entire food groups, we are able to take a closer look. Certain foods are ok, and others not (for example, not all dairy is out), some nuts are ok, others not - and what drives the acceptable versus the unacceptable is how the food is digested and converted within the small intestine.
I use a lot of coconut oil, so I have temporarily cut it out- not knowing if it is an offender (to be reintroduced later) and berries are a major no-no for me - some people can tolerate them, but not me. One raspberry can ruin me for MONTHS. No joke. ... and no cocoa at all on this diet. But honey, yes yes!
Yesterday was rough. Lightheaded and a bit shaky, and absolutely no energy. I made some almond bread and that helped. ... but I need to find a good source for dry-curd cottage cheese. So many of the author's recipes use dry-curd cottage cheese. There's a Trader Joes about 20 minutes from my house - I'll try there.
It's amazing what our babies will and will not tolerate, I have been blessed with babies who will do fine with nearly whatever I eat, so this is the first time that I had to really restrict myself. If it came down to my baby sleeping or me not being able to eat ice cream ... hmm. that's a toss-up - but it's a moot point for me now anyway. Ice cream is out. (not just one crying-face, but three!!)
Lunch today won't be anything too different from what I would eat anyway - sauteed spinach, tomatoes, and gouda. But normally I would also have toasted ezekiel bread with it. Boo!
... curious about the paleo diet, do you follow it faithfully Lindsay?
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