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Posted: July 25 2009 at 7:46am | IP Logged
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I need help!
My dd(7) is continuing to fight her eczema. We at our wits end. We know that she reacts to chlorine and dairy products. We have had a crazy summer where dd has been in the pool and eaten what she has wanted (of course this is the one kid who loves her milk and as she says it "cow milk Mom, not that other stuff you TRY to get me to drink.")
So she has had a bad flare up. I need to take her in to see the pediatrician for something else and I know she is going to tell me to start using the cortisone again but I really want to see if there is something natural that she can take.
Any ideas??
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MarilynW Forum All-Star
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Dear Mimi - hugs to your dd. Unfortunately I could write a book on the subject. I too am allergic to chlorine. I have tried nearly every natural treatment there is
I am on my way out for the day - but I wanted to write one thing quickly:
Assuming that your daughter has 'the real deal' -(not just flaky or dry skin that many term eczema) - my advice would be to use the cortisone to get it under control. Once it is under control and the skin is healed - then you can think about using natural methods to reduce the number of flare ups.
Th problem with a lot of natural methods is that eczema patients are allergic to them - nut oils/plant oils etc. Also I learned the hard way that for a severe flare up only cortisone will work.
Also my personal experience (and that of my dd) is that the dermatologist recommended moisturizers work much better than organic/natural ones - because again plant oils and essential oils can aggravate eczema. eg if your daughter goes swimming i would make sure she has a layer of Vaseline petroleum jelly over her skin to minimize the chlorine reaction.
Please ask if you have specific questions.
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My 4yold dd has bad eczema too. She scratches till she bleeds and is a mess most of the summer. We've determined that it's environmental allergies as she does much better in the winter and she has tested negative to every type of food test we've done.
Anyways, we too have to resort to the cortisone when it's really bad. Now something my dd can stand, but I know not all people can, is pure lanolin. It's very thick, smells like a bandaid. We put that on some times when she's a real mess and she'll wear long sleeves and pants to bed. Then come morning her skin is much less dry. That is the closest "natural" remedy we have found that works. I'd try it on a small patch first to be sure she isn't allergic to it first.
I've tried aloe with limited success and calendula with limited success. But unfortunately when it is a big flare up, it's the steroids that work the best.
Oh and we use Aquaphor all the time!
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Last year, I had the worst flare-up of my life. I had success with a glycerin soap and a pine tar soap. Every night I coated the area with Vitamin E.
Vitamin C in general helps with immune reactions.
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Our son had bad eczema that he outgrew for the most part. Pine tar soap was also very helpful for us--though he was never officially diagnosed so I wonder if he really had it after what Marilyn said.
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For us the very best thing for keeping eczema at bay is eliminating the triggers. It is possible that her milk consumption is causing her more issues than just eczema, it could really be messing with her gut health.
Sometimes, though, the triggers are unknown or impossible to avoid. My dd will sometimes flare up with eczema after playing outside. I am sure it is a contact thing as it will just appear on one side. I have tried exposing her to different things in the backyard to try and figure it out but haven't been able to. At these times I give her a quick bath and put lotion on her as soon as she is patted dry. I use CA Baby products. They have helped her skin tremendously. Nothing else (I used the things the dermatalogist recommended for months) has come close to what these lotions have done for her skin. I like both the aloe vera cream and the calendula cream. They are a bit pricy, but a little goes a long way. Just a smalllish dab with cover her whole back, for instance.
If all else fails, ie, I can't find the trigger and the bath and lotion don't help, and she is suffering I will resort to the prescription cream (triamacimolone, or some such name) that the derm gave us. Usually a one time application brings it down enough and sometimes completely eliminates it.
I hope you find an acceptable solution for you dd. I have eczema, it is usually very mild, but at the end of my first trimester this pregnancy it flared up like never before. I was miserable and refused to put anything on it other than lotion. It lasted close to a month. I have never found my triggers, but this time I think it might have been from losing a good deal of weight quickly (my body releasing too many toxins at once).
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 8:58am | IP Logged
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Ladies,
Thank you
We have been able to get her flare up under control so that she is not itching every few minutes. We used the derm oil that the ped. recommended and it worked great. Now I am going to try some of the ideas you all gave me:)
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:03am | IP Logged
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definately vit. C
I only use it for hay fever type allergies but in general it helps your body handles allergens and reduces reactions.
And on the milk.. have you tried goats milk? from what I understand good goat's milk is as good as or better than cow's milk and I know there are some people who can handle goat's milk who can't have cow's milk.
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every person is extremely different . It would be really best to get allergy tests first . different foods , oils , cloth etc. can be triggers . Each person unique .
I cannot go in pools at all and pay for it when I do . Salt water on the other hand works wonders . Epsom salts are a big no no for me where for most people they are a very healing salt.
only sea or table salt in my tub . I've got to wear cotton no nylon or acrylic what so ever nor wool .
Some oils will make me itch immedietly including base creams and oils for cortesone creams .
Olive oil works great on my head but on my skuin especially right on my ecsema make it burn and itch right away . coconut oil is ok on my skin but again must never touch my ecsema .Almond oil works on my ecsema . Cold works great like an ice pack to releive the itch .
I cannot have ornages or tomatoes just plain to eat and break out in rash and they irriate ecsema like crazy this goes for most acidic foods . Caffine is a big trigger .
As a child my ecsema came where ever my skin was moist like under my knees or in the bend in my arm . keeping those areas dry work best .
I am even very sensative to elastic in socks , barefoot is the best .warm or hot dry climate works best too .
I've 3 children who are like me and just break out in hives or ecsema . It is a drag and thats about all I can say .
witch hazel and even rubbing alcohol help cool the itch down big time .
to stop it try and watch those foods which are triggers like nuts , dairy , citus , tomatoe etc. stress is also related to it as well so finding ways to ease stress can help . try a 1-2cup salt in a tub .
vitamins that help with skin issues and that I use are vit e and vit d .
for clothing and bedding once again cloth that remains cool like cottons silks satins etc. are best . even in winter I can't wear slippers on my feet where my ecsema comes out the most .I limit socks to when going out doors and once in the house remove them and wear flip flops instead of slippers .
I know these may seem like small things but just one small little thing can mean alot with something like ecsema .
I never did like milk as a child I'm lactose intolerant and did not even eat cheese and when my mother gave us milk at lunch I'd always get a belly ache .
I can handle a bit of yogurt and the odd icecream cone here and there but still stay away from many dairy forms out there . Oh except butter of course
as far as creams go my best cream I do not get a reaction from is cocoabutter . I cannot use shea butter at all .Vit e cream & lanolin at times have been ok but truely the more just good diet and fresh air the better .
Hope this helps a bit .
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florasita wrote:
every person is extremely different . It would be really best to get allergy tests first . different foods , oils , cloth etc. can be triggers . Each person unique . |
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It should be noted that allergy tests are not 100% accurate. The best way to test for an allergy is by eating the food and watching for reactions. My dd tested neg for both soy and eggs, but yet is mildly allergic to soy and highly allergic to eggs.
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I am terrible at explaining it, but have you triedwet wraps?
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Thanks for that link, Angi. Looks interesting, gonna check it out
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Mimi
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Mimi
Just wanted to jump in re cows milk. I had eczema all my childhood, got rid of it when I was an adult and went dairy free. Anyhow some of my children are dairy sensitive too. Recently I gave A2 milk a try, it is dairy BUT it is the milk straight from Jersey cows only, therefore missing a protein that the other cows have. Dd is not getting eczema from this!! Don't know if you have this option in the States or not.
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This is not a natural remedy, but also is not a steroid. It's called Triple Cream. It's by the makers of Triple Paste diaper cream. After you get the eczema under control, use the Triple Cream daily. It works wonders on my dd and nothing else did. I use it at the first sign of eczema and it goes away. If I remember to put it on her daily, it doesn't even start.
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