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Our son is 5 in a few days and we decided to go nappyless with him to see if he could stay dry at night. Of the four nights since the experiment began he was dry two nights, and the other two nights he wet the bed twice. He has never woken up dry, by the way, and was always sopping wet. I tried to set him up for success in all the usual ways, making bedding changes easy, giving plenty of liquids all day but stopping an hour before bedtime, taking him to the potty at night. He says he is stressed about not being 100% perfect, and I think he also misses the full co-sleeping experience, as he is in a little bed right up nxt to the big bed )to minimise washing) but I hold his hand all night and snuggle lots in the morning. I do't really want to do back to nappies with him as his sister has "inherited" his night nappies and finally has a good supply herself, and he has developed sores which I put down to the very wet nappies he was "stewing" in at night. He was in cloth, btw, and was dry in the day at 2.5 years.
What do you think? Should I just keep trying?
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My oldest ds wasn't dry at night until he was almost 8. This is an inherited problem, according to the pediatrician. I have a nephew who wasn't dry until almost 10. Sometimes they just sleep too soundly at night to wake up. If he wasn't dry in the nappies before you tried, he probably won't be out of them. He may just not be ready. We are still waiting with my dd who is almost 8. Like I said it is inherited, and sometimes just takes a wait. Good luck. For the sores, go with Triple Paste, expensive, but cannot be beat. Good luck.
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Both my boys were dry during the day by 2.5, but weren't dry through the night until between 5 and 5.5.
I don't have any advice -- I pushed Nate out of pull-ups when I realized he was peeing in the AM. There was a lot of getting him up before I went to bed to get him in the habit of staying dry all night.
good luck!
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I've heard that too.....that it's an "inherited-thing"....meaning that some kids just aren't ready/not able to be dry until a certain age. For us, it's been 6.5, 5.5, 4.5 so far.
BUT.....the sores/blisters/rash on the bottom adds a whole 'nother dimension. DD #2 and #3 would get horrible blisters when they would continually soak their diapers, so we had to find other options for nighttime. No creams/medicine (OTC and prescription) helped. DD#1 was OK, as long as they were disposables....the blisters weren't as bad. So, we just did disposables at night.
I've heard also that adding a layer of fleece (they sell fleece liners now) against the skin, wicks the moisture away and helps a lot. It never worked with mine, but I've known people that it has.
The other two, we did whatever we could to keep them from sitting in a soaking diaper. All the things you mentioned, and here are a couple more for taking it to another level.....
** stop the liquids more than 1 hour before....more like 3 hours. For awhile this meant eating dinner earlier.
** Wake him up to go to the bathroom before you go to bed. For us, this was anywhere between 10-11 pm. Many times, they didn't even wake up completely, but would go on the toilet, with us holding them there.
**We set the alarm again for sometime between 2-3 am. And did the same thing. They usually went, even if just a bit. You could add another one in there, depending on how they're doing.
We made sure they knew that they weren't doing anything wrong, but simply we didn't want to put a diaper on because of the sores, and so their bottoms wouldn't hurt. And, it was perfectly OK if they woke up wet/that the bed got wet, etc. (And make sure that YOU are ready to just accept the fact that there will be wet things to launder and a quick rinse--off in the morning.) It's really important to treat it as "just another thing we do in the morning" and it's no big deal.
Also, try getting him to drink TONS of water in the AM and early afternoon, as it could dilute the urine and alleviate the severity of the sores.....that could solve the problem.
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Lucy~
Just coming back to clarify.....if you're not overly concerned about the sores, I wouldn't "try too hard"....as from what most people say, it's not something that can be taught or trainined. You could wake him up before you go to bed, and see what happens.
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the part that I've found can be trained is the laying in bed and waking up and being to lazy to get out of bed.
I have also had one that seemed to go hand in h and with physical growth.. everything would be fine and then a growth spurt would hit along with regression in that area.. I figure it has to be part of the process and not conscious.. not the way it was going.. so we just dealt with it and go on.. not get in a tither about it.
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Having had several late night wetters - I think the important thing is that they know that it is just that their body is not ready. I didn't want siblings teasing them. My sons are 19 months apart - the older wasn't night time trained until he was about 11. The younger was 3. My mother wet the bed and recalls the shame associated with it and I would not want that for my children.
We tried cloth at night but with the bigger kids it never seemed to work to well. So, we just used the good night and they worked like a charm.
I just tried to make it no big deal.
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Oh, we did try to do the behavior mod with our first wetter. We also tried the alarm system. It just woke me up. LOL. So, with the other two we just let nature do her thing.
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crusermom wrote:
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My son who's now 10 was not dry at night until he was 8. My middle dd is not dry at night yet but her younger sister is getting there. I think it's a genetic thing as my husband was late as well.
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This most likely isn't a factor with your child, but I wanted to mention that with both of our boys, excessive dairy (milk, or a lot of ice cream, daily (think summertime)) would cause them to wet the bed when ordinarily they didn't. Our oldest is back on cow's milk but not the youngest one yet.
Just thought I'd throw that out there as an idea.
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Some kids are verrrry heavy sleepers. 3 out of 5 of mine. I bought a great book called "Getting to Dry". They recommended an alarm. It has a sensor and attaches to their underwear. there is a wire, with a speaker . When the child wets, the sensors are now in contact and they trigger the beep. It trains their bodies to start to wake up when they feel the sensation of having to go. Right now his body just goes anytime he feels the sensation. It has worked well with my two daughters, who were older than your son, and now we are using it for my 7 yo daughter.
I am amazed at how heavily some people sleep. When we first started the process, I would hear the alarm, go into my daughter's room - the speaker is beeping in her ear, and she'd be out like a light. But that is getting so much better now.
It may sound "unnatural" to have to go through all this, but the confidence and pride she is feeling about accomplishing this is worth it.
Good Luck,
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