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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 2:42pm | IP Logged Quote Sarah

Joseph is now 2 mo.

He wakes all night long flailing about in bed. Its like sleeping with a windmill.

He will start to fall asleep and then wake suddenly and flail (not cry). I am starting to really feel strange with no sleep.

At those moments he does not want to nurse.

I really don't know what to do. He's my 6th child, you'd think I would know what the problem is.

Does anyone have suggestions?

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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 3:12pm | IP Logged Quote Kathryn UK

I haven't any experience of this problem, and I have never tried it myself, but I wonder if it would help if he was swaddled? Maybe he feels insecure with too much freedom of movement? Or it could just be that being able to move freely causes him to wake himself?

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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 3:44pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

That would be my guess too. They have those neat swaddling wraps now, in case you are as inept at swaddling as I am. I think with babies that sleep on their backs this is more of a problem. Mine sleep better on their tummies. I know I am not supposed to do that, but...



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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 7:13pm | IP Logged Quote nicole marie

I agree with Molly, mine was not a good sleeper until I started her on her tummy. Swaddling also helped. I will say a prayer for you. Sleep deprevation is so difficult!

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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 7:18pm | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

Oh Sarah I am so sorry. I am struggling with no sleep too - my guy is so good - but he nurses a lot and even though he does not cry, he does the "heavy breathing" and flailing around. I am surprised that I am finding the sleep thing so hard - as I do not usually need a lot of sleep. I am struggling through the days too

Lots of sympathy and hugs and prayers coming your way.

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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 8:48pm | IP Logged Quote Sarah

[QUOTE=MarilynW] "heavy breathing" QUOTE] That is so true about the breathing.

I have not had him swaddled and he is on his back. This is where I'll begin tonight.

I really appreciate all the suggestions. Its been very hard, but I feel guily complaining with all that others suffer. But I just need a couple 3-4 hour stretches (or more ).

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Posted: Aug 18 2007 at 9:46pm | IP Logged Quote mellyrose

I would try swaddling! I got this blanket for Lydia and love it.   It's just a large flannel receiving blanket, but the size makes swaddling easier. All my kids have slept better when swaddled.

Someone gave me one of those new swaddling blankets, but it has velcro on it, which is noisy if adjustments are necessary, so I don't use it.

Sorry you're struggling with sleep! I hope you get some soon.

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Posted: Aug 19 2007 at 7:42am | IP Logged Quote KristinaP

Oooh, I just found this today although, expensive, maybe you'd luck out in finding a used one on craigslist or something.
My 2 month old is the same way and she's my fifth-and she's a major screamer when she doesn't sleep-I have never in my life heard a baby scream the way she does So far, she sleeps best in the swing and although, I hate to leave in her in there all night, that's been the only solution. http://www.ambybaby.com/
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Posted: Aug 20 2007 at 8:22am | IP Logged Quote graciefaith

I'm still pregnant with my 3rd, who is due in Oct., but i bought the Miracle Blanket. I've read that newborns/infants often wake themselves up by involuntary movements. The Miracle Blanket is pretty much a long blanket that uses the baby's weight to hold it down. They're arms dont wiggle out or anything. No velcro or buttons to close it either. There have been many, many good reviews on it. I think in your case, it might help your ds.

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Posted: Aug 20 2007 at 9:39am | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Sounds like Joseph has a strong startle reflex, and it's waking him up. Just my two cents. I agree that swaddling might help.


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Oooh, I just found this today although, expensive, maybe you'd luck out in finding a used one on craigslist or something.
My 2 month old is the same way and she's my fifth-and she's a major screamer when she doesn't sleep-I have never in my life heard a baby scream the way she does So far, she sleeps best in the swing and although, I hate to leave in her in there all night, that's been the only solution. http://www.ambybaby.com/


I am eyeing this for this baby. Ds couldn't sleep -- it was mostly reflux. We ended putting him in the car seat, but I don't want to do that again.

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Posted: Aug 20 2007 at 1:46pm | IP Logged Quote happymama

I have a love/hate relationship with co-sleeping, loving the closeness but at times resenting the more frequent awakenings. So, I understand if this is not at all appealing to you, but would you consider letting him sleep in a co-sleeper or a crib for a few nights? Since he's not crying or wanting to nurse, could he learn to settle himself without being so close to wake you in the process?
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Posted: Aug 21 2007 at 12:03am | IP Logged Quote teachingmom

I don't have advice, but can identify a bit with what you wrote. My baby went through a period of very poor sleep between 2 and 4 months of age. It was awful! She is my 6th as well, and I felt like I had no clue how to handle it. Having her sleep in the car seat a bit helped. Her sleep improved slowly. It's still not as good as that of any of her sisters during infancy, but it's definitely more normal.

All I can offer is: This too shall pass.

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Posted: Aug 21 2007 at 7:01am | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

Did you notice all the typos in my post on Living Faith - definitely sleep deprivation!! I am going to correct them now.

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Posted: Aug 21 2007 at 7:51am | IP Logged Quote KristinaP

JennGM wrote:
Sounds like Joseph has a strong startle reflex, and it's waking him up. Just my two cents. I agree that swaddling might help.


I am eyeing this for this baby. Ds couldn't sleep -- it was mostly reflux. We ended putting him in the car seat, but I don't want to do that again.


Yeah, my second had serious reflux and didn't EVER sleep for more than 45 mins until after his surgery at 18 months. Talk about sleep deprivation    I wish I had known about this then (if it even existed).
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