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Posted: Nov 08 2014 at 11:26am | IP Logged Quote jawgee

I have been putting together my 13YO's history book list for Early Modern Times (basically 1550-1850) using the Simply Charlotte Mason book list. However, several of the books have a Protestant perspective on the Reformation.

Any recommendations for living books that could show the Catholic position during this time - without necessarily glossing over the problems during the church? Movies?

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Posted: Nov 08 2014 at 1:11pm | IP Logged Quote ekbell

For this time period my Connecting with History booklist has St. Margaret Clitherow by Forbes, Edmund Campion, Hero of God's Underground (a Vision book), Crossbows and Crucifixes, and Red Hugh, Prince of Donegall plus for balance and a reminder that good things were going on St. Ignatius Loyola by Forbes, Teresa of Avila by Forbes, St. Philip of the Joyous Heart and Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe Empress of the Americas

Also the textbook Light to the Nations Part One to provide an overview of the time period.

I can't say much about the historical fiction recommendations as my oldest normally prefers Saint books and other non-fiction but we enjoyed the Saint books.

(from her point of view - better a straightforward textbook then a 'teaching' adventure story -exceptions to be made for *really* good stories - the sort that are found on non-history based reading lists)
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Posted: Nov 10 2014 at 12:49am | IP Logged Quote St. Ann

Most (all) of the books I have found for this age group are about the situation in England, and I am always looking for sources on the reformation in Germany. I looked at New Advent and found this article full of information. I looked up one of the German Catholic defenders Johann von Eck, and he seems to be just as anti-Semitic as Martin Luther! I really don't know if there are any good books on the subject for the german situation.


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Posted: Nov 10 2014 at 6:23am | IP Logged Quote SallyT

Maybe more depth, and more dealing with difficult characters (on the "right" side, but still problematic) can wait until high school. For a middle-schooler, it might be enough to know that the Reformation happened, that there was this basic cast of players, and this outcome.

The world history that Mater Amabilis uses for Level 3 (6th/7th), The World's Story by Elizabeth O'Neill (free online here) deals pretty even-handedly with the Reformation. The author was most probably Anglican (it's a late-Victorian-era book), but doesn't seem to have a particular Protestant/anti-Catholic axe to grind. If I remember correctly (my 12yo son's in the ancient-Rome chapters right now), her focus is largely on England, but it is a world history, so I feel fairly sure there some mention of the Reformation on the continent as well. I'll have to check!

It's a good spine option for this age, at any rate. My 12yo has been reading it, with historical fiction alongside, with a great deal of enjoyment. It's an excellent overview overall for this level, and we'll go back through a whole history cycle in depth in high school, with more attention to problematic figures and aspects of history.

The Hillside edition of this book is called The World's Story. It's very nicely produced and worth having, but if you don't want to invest, the link above has the same book as a public-domain e-text in a number of formats. You can at least preview the chapters you're interested in, and download if you like it.

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Posted: Nov 11 2014 at 6:57pm | IP Logged Quote MarilynW

I really recommend a couple of cds from Saint Joseph Communications to supplement our Middle Ages/Early Modern history - we have listened as a family and found them really useful and interesting.

1. Fire and Sword: Crusades, Inquistion, Reformation

2. Luther the Rest of the Story

Some good books (for read aloud) are:

The Robert Hugh Benson books and the Stephanie Mann books on the English Reformation. Any saint books on Saint Edmund Campion, Saint Thomas More, Saint John Fisher. Also Hilaire Belloc's books on the Reformation.

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Posted: Nov 12 2014 at 9:13pm | IP Logged Quote Kelly

sally-or anyone else using "The World's Story"... Is there an accompanying set of tests for this book? I just got a copy of it and really like it. Im a huge fan of Hillyer's "Child's History of the World" but saw some pretty lopsided stuff on Phillip 2, Inquisition, "Bloody" Mary etc looming on the horizon. This looks like a good alternative for those segments.

Thx for the rec!

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