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This quote just came across a list that one of my loved one is on....
"Just for the record -- even the Roman Catholic church has dropped the idea
of Original Sin in babies! Who's left? Heard it on NPR!"
Huh? I searched NPR and came up with no reference. If you have an idea of where this came from and/or an explanation of this topic geared toward non-Catholics, could you please post? I'm helping to put together a charitable reply  .
Thank you!
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Hmmm. NPR--The new source for church news? 
Perhaps this news story on Limbo is the story that NPR misunderstands.
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MacBeth wrote:
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 For those who don't quite want the truth.
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Thanks for the link, MacBeth. It has been passed on  .
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Its nice when official theology catches up at long last with compassion and common sense, isnt it?
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A quick search turned up these links. I hope you find them helpful.
Envoy magazine (scroll down - it's about the 3rd question)
This Rock (Catholic Answers). After reading this one, I can see why the Vatican wanted to be more definitive.
I believe this is the NPR story (summary and link to audio)
Finally, a quote from the Envoy magazine which is, to me, very well put...
"“Not infallible” is not the equivalent of “unsure.” On the level of everyday discourse and practice, all authentic Church teaching can be termed “certain.” It is far more reliable, for example, than theories of “global warming” or even the most established and generally accepted of scientific “facts.” Nevertheless, a lot of people who will readily dismiss a whole raft of Catholic teaching because “it’s not infallible” will pay unquestioning obeisance to theories of science that are by no means uncontested in the hallowed halls of the academy.
Church teaching commands our allegiance not because it is infallible but because it is authentic, that is, it is taught by those to whom — alone — the assistance of the Holy Spirit has been promised: the successors of the apostles. Yes, we are all the Church (or if you must, “We are all Church”), and we all enjoy gifts and a variety of “assistance” from the Holy Spirit. But that does not mean that “the sure charism of truth” was bestowed on all of us. The elbow is certainly part of the body; but that doesn’t entitle it to claim it can see or hear."
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Perhaps I've misunderstood this. Are you asserting that the official teaching of the Church, unwavering and true throughout the ages, is not compasionate or is lacking in common sense?
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Oh, we have to be careful tossing the word "compassion" about. I'm sure the Dutch feel compassion as they euthanize the elderly  . I have heard abortion defended as "compasionate" towards the mother.
That is not to say that we should not be compassionate, but truth is truth, and sometimes it's hard, and seems as though it is lacking in compassion.
(Not sure this is the right place for this discussion. )
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Limbo was never an official teaching of the Church. It was posed as a possible theory to where the unbaptized souls go. It was never taught as doctrine.
But of course, at the end of time, only Heaven and Hell remain, so if Limbo is given the official Church's approval, whoever is in Limbo will be given an official home in either Heaven or Hell...that is another area that needs to be worked out.
This is one area that has taken some time for theologians to work out the truth. The Church has to pray and discern how God deals with unbaptized babies -- the Church isn't just making doctrine up just to please humans, but discerning Truth. Sometimes the issues are harder to discern than others. We are now in an age where there are so many aborted babies that the question is back on the table again.
I'm looking forward to reading the document. As I have had two miscarriages, I have two souls that I think are in heaven...but I would be consoled to know exactly the Truth.
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