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Posted: June 17 2010 at 5:51pm | IP Logged Quote JaysFamily
Is there a difference between The New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism #1-4 and FHC, and Baltimore Catechism 1-4? Are they the same, just different prints, or are they two completely different series?

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Posted: June 17 2010 at 6:27pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM
It's a good question!

I asked something a bit similar Catechism Questions

There is a great resource that has side by side comparison of Nazareth Master Catechism which has the complete Baltimore Catechism, also at Project Gutenberg

The Catholic Encyclopedia. The First Council of Baltimore ordered a standard catechism to be used in the United States, and the Baltimore Catechism was born in 1891 Baltimore Catechism is a basic Q&A format. There are 4 different ones, starting with the young catechism, #1 is for First Communicants with just 33 lessons, #2 was a shorter catechism, as not "complete", sometimes referred to as the Confirmation Catechism, #3 was the complete or adult catechism, and #4 was the complete with explanations for the catechist. (If someone knows differently, please let me know.)

In 1941 the Baltimore Catechism was revised, to reflect some changes, as the 1913 Code of Canon Law had some changes. (online source?)

Now, St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism is the revised question and answers and adds text and pictures for age appropriate explanations. It's the same Baltimore Catechism Q&A but not as skeletal. The pictures were always instructive.
I hope that helps a bit.

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Posted: June 17 2010 at 6:41pm | IP Logged Quote JaysFamily
Yes, it does! Thank you, yet again! You are such a wealth of knowledge for Catholic resources!

I was hoping we'd be covered by everything with just the New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechisms, especially since I already have the first one.

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There are two editions of the Baltimore Catechisms as they were revised in the 1940's. So it's worth checking if the books are the original Baltimore Catechisms (which are out of copyright) and the Offical Revised Editions.

The New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechisms 1 and 2 contain the offical revised baltimore catechism texts 1 and 2 with added pictures, scripture quotations, explanations and activities. You can see samples at the publishers website Catholic Book Publishing

There are no Saint Joseph editions for the Baltimore catechisms no 3&4 (3 is highschool level, 4 was for teachers-I'm not sure 4 was revised)

The Saint Joseph First Communion Catechism is based on the baltimore catechism but it uses much simpler language and covers only the very basics of our faith.
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ekbell wrote:
The Saint Joseph First Communion Catechism is based on the baltimore catechism but it uses much simpler language and covers only the very basics of our faith.


I read different views on the numbering system, with the 0 being very confusing. Do you any source to explain the different numbering?

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We love love this catechism both versions ! Yes the ST.J version has some simpler language in the first books but it is in no way dumbed down . In fact at times we must remeber simpler does not mean less than or dumbing down .Often God wishes us to just take it in in a less complicated way , . I am a epsron like that. I need one , maybe two passages at a time not a whole page full of scripture I teach my catechsim class the same way.
We use the ST.J cat as a spine and then have books around each topic we are studying depending on age range along with vocab for each week from the chapter covered etc.
I also found in teaching public school children and especially those from our area who may not have the reading level skill but do have the intelligence and comprehension the books are excellent for them . I also had a child with FAS and he followed along just fine with our class using these books .
I know this might sound strange but we found the cat that most use the Faith and Life series to be more of a less inspiring version I guess it just was to workbookish etc. I and our children just found it dull and boring .
I find the baltimore cat & ST.J cat inpsired us to be curious to search on our own , to want more ,to take books from the library , it led us to then pick up the big CCC and see the real juicy stuff , where we get it all from It also went along great with the aboriginal ( native american catechism ) I used provided by the parish .
This is just based on our own experiences and how I teach best and our children learn ,each family has thier own way to work & learn . Hope this helped somehwhat .

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