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I know we close soon, so probably won't get a lot of responses, but I'm curious about timing of Easter Vigils. The one at our parish has always been at 8 PM. I know of a few others that start later in the evening, but most start around that time. Well, this year my husband is a sponsor for a co-worker and we are going to be the godparents for their children as the whole family is coming into the Church. This is a parish in a different area of town. We found out today at the rehearsal that their vigil starts at 3:30 AM on Easter morning.
I know that the vigil technically can be any time after sunset on saturday to sunrise on Sunday but have never participated in one of the early morning ones. I am so not an early morning person and neither are my kids. Not sure how this is going to work for us. If my husband and I should just go - then take the kids to Mass later in the morning at our parish. My daughter loves the Easter Vigil and would like to go, but would prefer the one at our parish. I can't see going from 8 - 11 then trying to sleep a little and get up there by 3:15 AM.
Just wondering who else has done the very early morning vigils...
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Well where my ILs are used to be right after sunset, so fairly early.
Here I think it's supposed to be at 8:30pm.. at least that's what it is on the Alter Server schedule.. but it could have changed.
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The latest I've ever done is midnight. I've never heard of a pre-sunrise vigil.
Our parish vigil begins at 8:00 p.m., but we're probably going to a downtown church - theirs starts at 7:30 (just barely - and I mean barely - after sundown).
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I entered into the Church in Portland OR at a sunrise vigil. (I think ours started at 5 am)
however, I recall studying that it is properly celebrated as being completed while still dark, which is perhaps why they are doing it at 3:30am?
It also must be totally dark before the start of the vigil.
I think around here, the vigils are all starting at either 8 or 9 pm...
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http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/eastervigil.shtml
this has a bit of info....
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Earlier time here - 7pm.
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Lisa, that's why I thought the 7:30 start time was unusual.
Funny memory - when we were stationed in Italy a few years ago, the base chapel held the Easter Vigil each year using borrowed items, specifically a tall Weber grill for the fire pit and (don't laugh) an inflatable wading pool to catch the water from the baptisms. Every year, Monsignor would stress over the grill borrowing process. When we left we donated our grill...I wonder if it is still there...and I'm not sure what it's like to step into an empty wading pool to be baptized. Hmmm.
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Our church which is rigidly orthodox about so many things is starting the Vigil at 7:00. Grr. One year I was at a parish that had it scheduled for 8:00 and the pastor made us all wait in the pews for 10 minutes until he felt it was sufficiently dark!
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Ours will be at 8:30.
I have never ever heard of something starting at 3:30. I didn't read Lisa's quote, but I thought it had to be after dark but before midnight.
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Ours starts 8:45 pm Saturday.
I miss our early morning Easter tradition in parts of the Philippines. Around 4 am there is a huge procession from opposite sides of town, heading towards the Cathedral. From one side the life-sized statue of the mourning Virgin Mother on a float. From the other side of town comes the Risen Christ in all His Glory. They "meet" right outside the Cathedral, and a little girl dressed like an angel lifts the black veil off of Mary's face. Lots of singing hymns (Tagalog, Latin and English) while processing inside, and then Easter Mass begins.
Some areas have an accompanying reenactment on Friday when the black veil goes on the Virgin's face, and prior to the procession another reenactment of Mary Magdalen going to the tomb and finding it empty. So as you can imagine the reenactment on Sunday early morning starts out pretty early, around 3:00 am.
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Where we used to live in Italy (Gaeta), there is a hilltop monastery that sits next to a cliff with a top-to-bottom cleft in it. Tradition says that the split in the split in the mountain happened as Jesus died on the cross.
Many residents of the town make a pre-dawn pilgrimage to Montagna Spaccata on Easter Monday ("Little Easter" in Italian) to see the sun rise and say prayers at this holy place. During the day, busloads of pilgrims arrive at the monastery and walk to the split in the cliff.
It's so wonderful to discover international traditions that commemorate and honor the Passion and Resurrection. I love knowing that, all around the world, tomorrow people will be holding palms and singing hymns, Thursday we'll be kneeling in Adoration together, Friday we will walk the Via Dolorosa and Saturday and Sunday we will be shining with the joy of Easter.
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Oh Mary!  I didn't know you didn't know it was going to be at 3:30am!!
LisaR wrote:
http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/eastervigil.shtml
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From this link: Notes 1 This year Holy Saturday occurs during Daylight Saving Time. Pastoral planners should contact local weather stations for the time sunset will occur on Saturday, March 22, 2008. Another 45 minutes or one hour should be added to that time in order to determine the approximate time of nightfall.
Our diocesan websitelisted the sunset time on Sat. as 7:25 p.m. According to the USCCB info above, at least one hour should have been added to that to have sufficient darkness. Our Vigil Mass started at 8pm. I wish we could wait until at least 9pm but I am going to ask Fr. about the hour wait for next year.
Easter doesn't occur until late April next year, so the start time should be even later next year.
Mary, there was an article in the diocesan paper several years ago when that pastor began the custom of beginning the Vigil at 3:30 am but I've searched the archive and can't fine it.
Here is the Pastor's comment from their website:
Finally, and in fact most profoundly, I urge you to join us at 4:00 am for the Easter Fire and Vigil Mass on Easter Sunday morning. This is the most ancient and most authentic sunrise service you will ever attend. At that Mass we enter the church in darkness and celebrate the new life of our community as we baptize nearly fifty people and bring another sixty into full communion with our Church. I hope you will be there following Jesus, and experiencing the Joy only He can bring!
Did it start at 4:00 instead of 3:30? Maybe it was to make sure the sun rose before the end of mass?
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around here, it seems most started at 8:15pm. I did hear of one starting at 7:30, but it was not dark yet at that time....
and gwen, from what I am reading the sun cannot rise before the end of Mass...
Mary, how was it??
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LisaR wrote:
and gwen, from what I am reading the sun cannot rise before the end of Mass...
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Yes, you're right!
The Vigil, by its very nature, “ought to take place at night” (EV, no. 3). It is not begun before nightfall1 and should end before daybreak on Easter Sunday. The celebration of the Easter Vigil takes the place of the Office of Readings (EV, no. 5).
There's no way they could have baptized 50 people before the sun came up. Looking forward to Mary's sharing of the Vigil Mass!
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Ours has always started at 8:30 pm, and Father will wait if it is still light outside.
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Our Easter Vigil began at 10 and ended around 2 in the morning. As Kimberlee shared on her blog, the Paschal Vigil is incredibly rich!
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Ours began at 8:30, and finished around 11:15. This was the OF, but we had 62 people coming into the Church, 13 of them catechumens.
It was all very beautiful.
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You are correct in assuming there was no way it was going to finish before sunrise. We've known from our Journey North project this spring that the local sunrise time is around 6:30 AM. A typical 3 hour vigil would be just fitting in that time frame and as Gwen noted there were over 100 people receiving sacraments (50+ being baptized). The fire was supposed to be at 3:30 with Mass starting at 4:00. But due to the sheer numbers and moving people around in the dark the fire and candle blessing didn't happen until 4 and then additional time was lost in starting Mass, so it wasn't until 4:45 I think. Then the sheer numbers of sacraments - you can imagine. Mass did not end until a little after 8:00 AM.
People were already lined up outside the church waiting to get in for the 8:30 AM Mass. Anyway, it was all very dramatic to be a part of. Father did say this is the longest Mass he had ever celebrated and the largest number of people he has been involved with bringing into the Church.
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Mary, was there any reason why there were so many in this one parish?
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JennGM wrote:
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It is a massive parish geographically. It is in the rapidly growing north part of our metro area and if you look at maps of the Catholic churches you see there isn't much else in the vicinity - the churches are pretty spread out considering the growth of the population in the area. This priest also has a reputation for preaching and for whole parish catechesis. He really draws people in. Gwen is actually more familiar with the area and parishes there so hopefully has something to add. It was all very new to us as we are further south and only connected this year because of my husband's co-worker and family who we sponsored.
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