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Is there any documentaion saying that, as Catholics, we can or can't do a Seder meal or any Jewish ceremonies?
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I can't find the guidelines now, but here is what I learned last year as DRE:
Seder meals are best left DONE by the Jewish community, and we are allowed to participate so long as the Jewish community welcomes us.
We can do a modified Last Supper or something like a Seder Meal as long as we don't do it completely or call it a Seder Meal (this would be disrespectful to the Jews - like them saying our Mass - how would we want it to be done so that it is respectful of our Faith?).
Other Jewish ceremonies, it just depends. Frankly, anything that is ordinarily considered a public ceremony, I would much rather leave to a Jew him/herself to do and I participate WITH them. IE if my son were to have been circumcised as a baby, I wanted it done as a Jewish ceremony by a Jewish (I can't think of how to spell it right now - it is pronounced "moila").
In our home, we do a Last Supper celebration and we walk through a Seder Meal, without actually doing the full thing - this seems to help make it stand out more clearly as the basis for the Last Supper and therefore for our Mass, placing everything in historical and spiritual context, without taking the chance of disrespecting the full Seder Meal.
Now, when we participated in one with a small Jewish community..... WOW! Not to be missed if you can do that!
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This can be a hot-button topic, because some priests have a serious view against having seder meals.
We had an interesting conversation a few years ago Passover Sets? during which KathrynUk gave an interesting perspective. It has had me thinking over the years. Our Passover Feast is and Paschal Mystery, which reaches its climax at the Easter Vigil, not Holy Thursday. While we commemorate Christ's actions and following His footsteps during Holy Week, it really is important to view a seder meal as part of the Jewish religious custom, a religion that is still in existence.
I had a few posts on my blog for Holy Thursday in our home, and I reflected on some thoughts about seder meal or not.
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Thanks for posting your blog post. For the past few years we have done a simple meal (like you suggested) with lamb and a few of the symbolic dishes. We have loosely followed the words from the Lenten Source Book from WFF, in conjunction with Scott Hahns 4th Cup(like you referenced in your post).
I feel that my family has benefited from this, showing the transition from the Jewish Faith to the Catholic Faith during the Tritium. I also feel that by using Scott Hahn's information in conjunction with our dinner it puts the focus on our Catholic Faith/Easter Sunday.
Thanks for this discussion.
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ALSO,
One of our family traditions that has evolved over the years is to eat Leg of Lamb on Thursday night and then eat "Leftover Leg of Lamb Soup" on Easter Sunday.
The recipe can be found in Nourishing Traditions on page 208. It's a great way to use up any left overs and it's also quite good!
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Betsy wrote:
ALSO,
One of our family traditions that has evolved over the years is to eat Leg of Lamb on Thursday night and then eat "Leftover Leg of Lamb Soup" on Easter Sunday.
The recipe can be found in Nourishing Traditions on page 208. It's a great way to use up any left overs and it's also quite good! |
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That is such a great idea, but the only lamb I like is Lamb Cake. 
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Not to answer the ? in the OP, but I know many priests who support the idea of a Christian Seder. I put my experience here
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"Our external acts must correspond to our internal beliefs."
(quote from the audio linked to above)
I believe that our faith comes from the Jewish faith and to have an understanding of the *original* Seder meal (and other pre-Jesus Jewish practices) bring a deeper understanding, appreciation for, and connection with our ancient roots and current faith.
So much of our faith is lost when we forget our roots.
Just my thoughts... Now I do have a hard time with some of the details that are changed/given (as addressed in the audio).
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This post summarizes much of what the audio says, but does not come down as strongly or black and white.
Please remember this, as all the discussions in the thread, are opinion and not Church teaching. Having a seder meal is a matter of prudential judgment.
A wonderful treatment of this question is posted at Catholic Answers.
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