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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 6:45am | IP Logged Quote Ruth
known as Michaelmas Embertide.

I always make pumpkin bread, although lately, I have been making muffins instead because they are much easier since the kids tear the bread apart. They really love it!

Have a blessed day!

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 7:52am | IP Logged Quote MaryM
Last years discussions and explanations - Ember Days and Seasonal Preparations.

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 8:46am | IP Logged Quote marihalojen
Wasn't that last week? Though I always mess up Liturgical dates, I thought the Ember Days fell on the Wednesday, Friday and Saturday after the feast of the Holy Cross (September 14).

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September Ember Day confusion

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote JennGM
There is some confusion, even Father Z.

See Ember Alert

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote JennGM
Oh, we cross-posted, Lindsay!

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 9:00am | IP Logged Quote MaryM
It is very confusing isn't it, Jennifer? Here is an explanation I found last year and posted in that other thread.

The ember days, still observed by Traditional Roman Catholics who use pre-1969 liturgical calendars, began on the Wednesday immediately following those days. This meant, for instance, that if September 14 were a Tuesday, the ember days would occur on September 15, 17, and 18. As a result the ember days in September could fall after either the second or third Sunday in September. This, however, was always the liturgical Third Week of September, since the First Sunday of September was the Sunday closest to September 1st (August 29 to September 4). As a simplification of the liturgical calendar, Pope John XXIII modified this so that the Third Sunday was the third Sunday actually within the calendar month. Thus if September 14 were a Sunday, September 24, 26 and 27 would be ember days, the latest dates possible; with September 14 as a Saturday, however, the ember days would occur on September 18, 20 and 21 - the earliest possible dates.

Ember Saturday is a traditional time for ordinations. In our diocese the ordination for the transitional diaconate for will be on Saturday, Sept. 26. This year two of the seminarians being ordained deacons are friends pf our family and we will be attending. Just like last year, we will be observing the Saturday Ember day in that way - it is such a blessing.


Oops - cross-posting with everybody!!!


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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote marihalojen
Great. I remember lots of chat about the confusion last year too. Lucky me!   

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 10:42am | IP Logged Quote Mackfam
marihalojen wrote:
Wasn't that last week? Though I always mess up Liturgical dates, I thought the Ember Days fell on the Wednesday, Friday and Saturday after the feast of the Holy Cross (September 14).


I did too, Jen! So, I was all set to observe them last week when my dd said, "Ember week isn't til next week". So, I shifted my plans.

MaryM wrote:
Pope John XXIII modified this so that the Third Sunday was the third Sunday actually within the calendar month. Thus if September 14 were a Sunday, September 24, 26 and 27 would be ember days, the latest dates possible; with September 14 as a Saturday, however, the ember days would occur on September 18, 20 and 21 - the earliest possible dates.

ACK!!! What if September 14 was a Monday like this year??????

I have a calender that follows the Traditional (pre-1962) liturgical days and it lists Ember Wed as today, but I think I got confused because I had them listed in my iCal as last week. sigh. May God bless us for our efforts at least!

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 10:50am | IP Logged Quote MaryM
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ACK!!! What if September 14 was a Monday like this year??????


All that the 14th being on Monday means is that the 13th is only the 2nd Sunday of month so Michaelmas ember days don't happen til the following week. This past Sunday, Sept. 20 was 3rd actual Sunday of month - therefore ember days start in that week (which is this week ).

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 10:52am | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn
Mackfam wrote:

MaryM wrote:
Pope John XXIII modified this so that the Third Sunday was the third Sunday actually within the calendar month. Thus if September 14 were a Sunday, September 24, 26 and 27 would be ember days, the latest dates possible; with September 14 as a Saturday, however, the ember days would occur on September 18, 20 and 21 - the earliest possible dates.

ACK!!! What if September 14 was a Monday like this year??????


It's just giving you the range.. the earliest dates are Sept. 18, 20, 21 and the latest are Sept. 24, 26, 27

Since this year is neither of those it falls in between.. going off the 3rd Sunday of the calender year so.. Sept 23, 25, 26

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Posted: Sept 23 2009 at 10:53am | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn
oh well.. I guess multiple explainations can be a good thing

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